GamingTrend
First time out of the vault
Admitting it at all doesn't mean anything? I think it goes a long way...
The M-16 I had in the military was a great example of this - parts are interchangable and have been since the civil war era.
Fallout 3 at E3 - Gaming Trend
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First time out of the vault
GamingTrend said:
Actually, they'd probably cut it down to "Fallout 3 could easily be Oblivion with guns."
That was not meant to be taken that seriously. I have no firm opinion on loading screens in general. Just trying to balance out the lavish "It's gonna be awesome" of the preview sites with some sarcastic quips, you know?
Well, I must admit right away I'm no weapons expert, but again I would think that's not how weapons work. If you don't give them proper maintenance, they don't get something like -20% accuracy, they just get more likely to jam. Picking apart two AK-47s that for some reason spray bullets all over the place isn't going to net you one that works great.
That was also a joke, and I still find your use of the word "only" amusing.
Also, welcome to the board and please don't double post.
Edit: Or sixtuple post.
GamingTrend
First time out of the vault
Tora said:GamingTrend said:
True, but a nuke launching device seems a bit unrealistic balance-wise regardless unless it pretty much wipes out an entire block... granted that may yet happen, but I do not have high hopes for such a thing. I may yet be proven wrong, but so far......
I mean look at the undetonated nuclear bomb that caused a giant crater large enough for a town to be built in. An _undetonated bomb_ just by falling or whatever could cause such a big damage while a mini-nuke that detonated won't kill you?
This is no different than a sword in an RPG that does 9999 damage. You'll quest for 100 hours to get it, and the reward is that you are unstoppable. That's my thought anyway...
VDweller
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
That context thing sure changes everything. The game looks like Oblivion with gun, but Todd reminded us that the game has stats. What, there weren't any stats in Oblivion?GamingTrend said:
It's not about the balance. It's about the abundance and stupid design of nuclear explosions. Just put your keyboard away for a second and think. It takes FIVE DIRECT NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS to kill a fucking humaniod. Still makes sense?
GamingTrend said:
Not really. Fantasy RPG is fantasy, magic... you know, super-natural.. Sci-fi setting... you tend to expect some sort of scientific basis, at least if its using known tech and not some new made-up technology. Its like this. I wouldn't mind if in a fantasy world the physics of things are messed. I wouldn't mind in a sci-fi world if know physics are messed up either if its the result of say the discovery of some new particle or whatever. But I _WOULD_ be annoyed if in the sci-fi world its all of a sudden normal for known laws of physics to be messed up just because they felt like it.
GamingTrend said:
As I said in another thread, if someone has been known to lie to you, whether they admit to it or not, you don't usually give them the benefit of a doubt again. It's something they have to work to regain.
I hope this is a screw up on the writers part? Otherwise, the Enclave really isn't operating the radio station "in the shadows."
It's bad enough that the Enclave is still around, and that they managed to make it to the east coast, given how crippled they should be. It makes no sense at all, given their history and the way they operate, to be openly broadcasting from a radio station.
I think someone else on here put it best, in a sarcastic comment they made a few weeks ago:
"This is Enclave Station, the official radio station of the super secret, shadow government organization that you're not supposed to know about!"
GamingTrend said:
Much of our problem with the Fatman isn't about balance. It's about it not fitting in well with the established feel and canon of fallout. At all. Causing "mini nuclear explosions" by detonating cars is a perfect example of this as well.
F1 and F2 both had one nuclear bomb each. In both cases, the bombs caused a huge explosion, tons of radiation, and the character had to "get the heck out of dodge" before they went off. Otherwise, he'd be vaporized.
So, that's how F1 and F2 handeled nuclear weapons and nuclear detonations - as something not to be trifeled with. Now, we're going to have a game where you fire "kwel mini nukes" in close quarter combat, and set off nucler detonations by shooting junked automobiles? How, exactly, does that stay true to the feel and spirit of Fallout?
The use of swearing is a minor issue, but also one along these same lines. Swearing was rarely used in F1 and F2. In the demo, we see two characters use the "F" word in a short period of time, plus the "motherf**ker" sign outside of the vault. I don't care if there's context appropriate swearing, but what I read leads me to fear that it may end up being over used. Which would give the game an immature, "designed by 13 year olds" feel to it.
I'll end by saying that I'm gradually becoming more interested in this game as I read about it. It may very well be that it is "fun" in some aspects. But, there are a lot of little things that, when added up, make me worry that despite what has been written, Bethesda is actually way off in terms of putting together a Fallout "feel" and staying true to Fallout canon.
Thanks for posting here, and responding to some of our concerns.
xdarkyrex said:
So given that there's another year left this time, they still have a full year left to back out of their new claims!
Its just a matter of being pessimistic or optimistic, and the history of the fallout franchise (and possibly oblivion for those that played/followed it) tends to push certain people towards the more pessimistic views.
Tora said:xdarkyrex said:
So given that there's another year left this time, they still have a full year left to back out of their new claims!
Its just a matter of being pessimistic or optimistic, and the history of the fallout franchise (and possibly oblivion for those that played/followed it) tends to push certain people towards the more pessimistic views.
One would hope that they learn from their mistakes, but you're right, it's a year away, so any ALL claims are subject to change. That makes whining sort of pointless then, huh?
The funny thing about being optimistic is that it doesn't elicit negative emotions, and is therefor not tedious or miserable to do. Speculating in a positive way doesn't make me have a wild reaction, as opposed to the angry and emotional "HOW DARE YOU RAPE MY GAME" people.
I just don't see the point in being miserable over speculation.
VDweller
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Do you believe everything you read on the internet?xdarkyrex said:
Dougly said:xdarkyrex said:VDweller said:
I know someone who read on Wikipedia that Adolph Hitler was born in a small town in Minnesota.
God Bless the internet. You "learn" something new every day.
I actually heard that quite a long time ago though.
When Oblivion was new.
...are you saying I'm wrong?
Briosafreak
Lived Through the Heat Death
GamingTrend said:
Thanks Ron for clearing things up
And Per I'm pretty sure that devs and media guys can make double posts if they are answering questions, it was an old unwritten rule, but I'm not fully sure, maybe Brother None remembers that
Tora said:xdarkyrex said:
Nah, as a pessimist I feel pity more than miserable. Pity for the optimistic people. Being optimistic about everything makes the let-downs hurt a lot more. Especially considering the records of this franchise/developer/industry.
The let downs hurt a lot more?
I suppose that is true for some.
Not mew though, I'm too apathetic.
I don't let emotions drive my sense of assumption
xdarkyrex said:The let downs hurt a lot more?
I suppose that is true for some.
Not mew though, I'm too apathetic.
I don't let emotions drive my sense of assumption
Really? Apathetic people don't tend to try to convince others... because they're you know, apathetic