Fallout 3 at E3 - GWN

My opinion is that Fallout's death animations were never about senseless, violent carnage. They were about exaggeration.

... the first bullet find its target and cause the Super Mutant’s head to explode ...
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This is a Fallouty exaggeration. (ok, I know some weapons really explode heads, not only perfurate it. But they're really heavy ones, not a rifle, as the PRs say it was in the E3 demo)

... causing all kinds of bloody chunks to go flying around the room (...) “There’s one of his eyes. There are pieces of brain. More brain. And there’s the other eye.”
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This is not the comics-like exaggeration we saw in Fallout, it's needless carnage. Sure, it may be immersive (not to me, thought) and realistic, but I think the world already has enough madness and bloodshed. It's really bad tasted to search for head pieces in a blood pool, IMO.

Not even in Crysis, ultra realistic as it is, the developers cared about ultra gory details. Because it's not needed, again IMO.
 
Makenshi said:
My opinion is that Fallout's death animations were never about senseless, violent carnage. They were about exaggeration.
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I have my doubts.

If I'm 100% honest, I think the carnage in Fallout doesn't stem from a logical expansion of the game's theme, rather it came about as a part of the game's mature theme and to showcase the talent of TSR divisions' excellent artists, especially JD Anderson.
 
Not for the kiddies? Well the maturity level of this project certainly seems to say that yes, it is for the kiddies.
 
The easter egg dev head explody sprite is still gorier than what Beth has showed so far.
 
Brother None said:
Makenshi said:
My opinion is that Fallout's death animations were never about senseless, violent carnage. They were about exaggeration.
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I have my doubts.

If I'm 100% honest, I think the carnage in Fallout doesn't stem from a logical expansion of the game's theme, rather it came about as a part of the game's mature theme and to showcase the talent of TSR divisions' excellent artists, especially JD Anderson.
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Well, it may not have been their intention, but that's the impression I have, and maybe other people as well. But like The Chosen One said: Opinions... you know :mrgreen:
 
Brother None said:
If I'm 100% honest, I think the carnage in Fallout doesn't stem from a logical expansion of the game's theme, rather it came about as a part of the game's mature theme and to showcase the talent of TSR divisions' excellent artists, especially JD Anderson.
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Err... Tramell Issac.
 
Brother None said:
Makenshi said:
My opinion is that Fallout's death animations were never about senseless, violent carnage. They were about exaggeration.
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I have my doubts.

If I'm 100% honest, I think the carnage in Fallout doesn't stem from a logical expansion of the game's theme, rather it came about as a part of the game's mature theme and to showcase the talent of TSR divisions' excellent artists, especially JD Anderson.
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In the context of the machine gun critical that'd blow out someone's side, probably.
But say for example the lasers melting people.. that was pure retro-sci-fi. What's old time sci-fi without a disintegrator of some sort?
Of course that's the one bit of gore Bethesda took out. Damnit!
 
Sorrow said:
Err... Tramell Issac.
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You mean Tramell Ray Isaac? Yeah, he was one of the 2D character artists. For some reason I tie the bloody death animations with JD Anderson in my head. No reason why.

But say for example the lasers melting people.. that was pure retro-sci-fi. What's old time sci-fi without a disintegrator of some sort?
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Laser cut people in two. Plasma burnt them to a crisp. The alien raygun would disintegrate the, later the pulse rifle too.

Yeah, that was pretty Sci-Fi, alright.
 
Brother None said:
Laser cut people in two. Plasma burnt them to a crisp. The alien raygun would disintegrate the, later the pulse rifle too.

Yeah, that was pretty Sci-Fi, alright.
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Could've sworn the lasers melted people, but you're right. Just checked. However, the plasma rifles would melt people about as much as they'd turn them to ashes.. which was also fun.
 
The fact that violence in the original Fallout could be totally disabled is lost on Beth.

Quote the Todd “There’s one of his eyes. There are pieces of brain. More brain. And there’s the other eye.”
 
ivpiter said:
The fact that violence in the original Fallout could be totally disabled is lost on Beth.
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We don't know that it can't be completely turn-offable in Fo3.
 
Per said:
ivpiter said:
The fact that violence in the original Fallout could be totally disabled is lost on Beth.
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We don't know that it can't be completely turn-offable in Fo3.
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Didn't someone at Bethesda make a joke comment about putting a violence switch in Fallout 3 but leaving it stuck at max? In other words, it doesn't sound like it will.

Even if you could, that's not the point (come on, did anybody really turn off the gore in Fallout?). The point is they're focusing on the violence far too much. Lol slow-motion exploding heads!! Just shows the kind of adrenaline fueled "xtreme gaming" kiddie crowd Todd wants to appeal to.
 
Crowfoot said:
I love the way they've implemented the survival element. Just set off a mini-nuclear explosion? It's okay, there's a personal fallout shelter right there to hide in. See a super-mutant behemoth? scrounge around for a few seconds until you find a FatMan. Are these handy things just lying around for precisely these situations? But you still don't have enough fucking clean drinking water in your canteen. Lame.
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If I recall correctly, the battle with the behemoth took place after the player joined forces with Brotherhood paladins. I assumed the fatman was stolen off them, as was implied in one review.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
Actually I think the text said something like that you find the Fat Man on a corpse lying around.
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Yeah the GWN preview had the player finding one lying on the ground i think, but i do also recall some other preview saying that it was stolen from a Brotherhood Paladin. Sounds like they're a standard sidearm at this point.
 
ivpiter said:
Quote the Todd “There’s one of his eyes. There are pieces of brain. More brain. And there’s the other eye.”
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This reminds me, the one use of this to me seems to be for the bloody mess perk.
I want to be able to explode peoples brains with a throwing knife.
 
Vault 69er said:
Brother None said:
Laser cut people in two. Plasma burnt them to a crisp. The alien raygun would disintegrate the, later the pulse rifle too.

Yeah, that was pretty Sci-Fi, alright.
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Could've sworn the lasers melted people, but you're right. Just checked. However, the plasma rifles would melt people about as much as they'd turn them to ashes.. which was also fun.
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It was in Fallout Tactics that lasers melted people.

Vault 69er said:
The point is they're focusing on the violence far too much. Lol slow-motion exploding heads!!
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That's what I'm talking about. Violence was in Fallout all the time, but not with this focus.
 
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