Fallout 3 Full E3 Trailer

radnan said:
13pm said:
watching it HD, I understood WHAT'S WRONG about dismemberment: the bodies so easily tear into pieces that there's a feeling of that they have some special 'cut here' lines at the main joints. It feels like LEGO, you know
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This has always been a problem with havok powered games .. it just feels like limbs, skin, objects have no weight .. its not menacing .. its just .. a joke
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Havok has really been around the block man, so that is just to be expected. I remember seeing it in PS2 games even, so it's definitely time tested. If you have seen the GOW2 preview videos though, it seems like The gibbing looks much more 'fleshy'. IMO it looks like that is the crowd bethsoft is pandering too with this game.

even so the gibbing really looks pretty satisfying, albeit over the top, thats why he emphasizes they are using the 'bloody mess' perk.

I'll also say that ad is very well done, despite that vault boy animation of course.
 
t. howard is probably the cause for all that frat-boy humour that so annoys me. i imagine him running excitedly through bethesdas corridors* yelling AWESOME then collapsing, panting and sweating ... because of the depiction of that birthgiving mother (pop pop pop AWESOME pop pop pop).

thats the humour of people who just... dont... get ... it. trying to comprehend something that is just barely beyond their intellectual capabilities. i hate those people in rl, does that show?
 
I think all you haters should get this game anyway.

All you've done in the past year is abuse Bethesda, you should at least do it with some concrete evidence.

who knows? you might actually enjoy playing it.

if you don't, you will at least know exactly which parts of the game you didn't like.

It'll be hard for you guys to argue how much it sucks to people who own the game when all you've got is trailer and gameplay footage.

:twisted:

You should be thanking Fallout3 for giving you a renewed love of your older Falllout games.
 
maggit said:
BOS Man said:
There was a guy on Game Trailers who complained about the Vault Boy being a rip off of Bioshock. I wanted to punch the bastard with a Power Fist in the groin (well, I guess I can't do that anymore). Kids these days.
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You should've done that.
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I did actually, I ripped into him with a post I wrote only to be told I needed to register. Fuck that, I'm too lazy for that shit. The ignorance has gotten out of control though; I just browsed through it a bit more and counted four or five more kids complaining that Fallout's art style, music, or the Vault Boy rips off Bioshock within just three pages. I don't have time to educate that many dunce-bags and they can go fuck themselves for all I care. If anyone else wants to launch an assault on Game Trailer's boards, be my guest. But I guarantee you, this nonsense is going on all over the net. Kids no nothing of the classics. You'd think the big 3 at the end of the title might be a hint to them that Fallout's been around longer.

Unpossible! Someone just posted that even BIS developers have gone on record to say they like Bethesda's vision! What have you done with the real Puuk.
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Can we get a source on this? (I refuse to say sauce.)
 
the4thlaw said:
I think all you haters should get this game anyway.
All you've done in the past year is abuse Bethesda, you should at least do it with some concrete evidence.
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I believe we already have enough evidence to send Todd Howard to the electric chair, thank you.
 
the4thlaw said:
You should be thanking Fallout3 for giving you a renewed love of your older Falllout games.
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Not with what they did with the FALLOUT name.
Right now we are seeing a first-person action game without the core of Fallout game.

The animation looks like flash-based. What's with the live actors?
 
Todd Howard is someone who is really really really cool.

Up to the point that he opens up his mouth and speaks, it's so damn annoying to hear him pause in the middle of sentences for no reason and he has the same tone every sentence he says good lord he is a boring speaker.
 
The actual gameplay is better than I thought it was going to be... didn't feel too much like Oblivion.

The amount of violence shown seems consistent with what is in FO1 and 2. I saw plenty of bodies cut in half with SMG's in FO1 and 2, so it didn't seem out of place in this footage.
 
The live action was way too crisp-looking, and is it just me or do the combatants seem very willing to fall apart in certain places. I think just in that trailer I saw 10 mutant legs fall off of the body in the exact same spot.... and three heads blew apart in the same exact way...

I enjoy violence in videogames as much as the next guy but that was a little over the top. It would have been nice to see the dialogue tree in action, or see a bit more scenery.
 
BOS Man said:
maggit said:
BOS Man said:
There was a guy on Game Trailers who complained about the Vault Boy being a rip off of Bioshock. I wanted to punch the bastard with a Power Fist in the groin (well, I guess I can't do that anymore). Kids these days.
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You should've done that.
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I did actually, I ripped into him with a post I wrote only to be told I needed to register. Fuck that, I'm too lazy for that shit. The ignorance has gotten out of control though; I just browsed through it a bit more and counted four or five more kids complaining that Fallout's art style, music, or the Vault Boy rips off Bioshock within just three pages. I don't have time to educate that many dunce-bags and they can go fuck themselves for all I care. If anyone else wants to launch an assault on Game Trailer's boards, be my guest. But I guarantee you, this nonsense is going on all over the net. Kids no nothing of the classics. You'd think the big 3 at the end of the title might be a hint to them that Fallout's been around longer.
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Actually after I finished reading your posts guys, I got the very same feeling about it. But then I saw this comment on GameTrailers.com website:

Wolfguard
Posted 7-14-2008 7:55pm

TurdRocket87, K0sican, jubabowling, Sejad and to other fake wanna-be Fallout fans,

Perhaps people mean that the GAMEPLAY reminds them of Bioshock, which it actually does, rather than the atmosphere, architecture, design and/or style? Of course there are a lot of uninformed gamers out there, that thinks that the design in FO3, or FOE as I like, reminds them of Bioshock, when in fact it's the other way around, but there are also people who thinks, that the gameplay in Fallout more looks like an FPS than an RPG. And we all know Fallout 1 & 2 are RPG and Bioshock is FPS ...
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Isn't it irony of fate? Actually the guy is right at some point. Beth's Fallout 3 more reminds a Bioshock to "uninformed" players. It has more common with FPS game Bioshock, than with it's RPG ancestors. They don't even mention Oblivion any more, they say BIOSHOCK!

Good job Todd.
 
What was the hunting rifle he was using in the trailer? Can anyone identify it? (The one he was standing with in the beginning when it panned upwards)
 
So... no one's mentioned it (at least, ctrl + F couldn't find it)... did anyone else notice the Fall 2008 at the end? Is that a release period? Did we know it was coming this year already?
 
Re: Oh the horror.

Jesuit said:
Long time lurker first time poster. Hi everybody.

We all know that only shitty games exclusively show action in their trailers...

Just trying to keep some perspective...
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but that had a demo and it was using the same engine.
 
First of all, I want to comment on something I saw earlier:

Somebody said not to support Bethesda and Fallout 3 on something along the lines of "our own turf." Whose own turf? I have been coming to this website for years, I loved the first two games, and I am excited for Fallout 3.

Second, this trailer was awesome. I can't wait to play this game.

Don't let the haters get you down. There is no such thing as turf. I'm not leaving this neighborhood just because some people here disagree with my high opinions of Bethesda and Fallout 3.
 
The ad segment had one thing that really bothered me. The guy at the end, when he points at the camera, looks like he is in one of those

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"infomercial", that's it, ad thingies that I saw back when I could be bothered to turn on a...umm...television? Yeah, a TV.

My impression of the real 50s cold war films, like at Internet Archive, is that they usually present stuff with a calm, authoritative, rational-sounding guy, who looks like a professor (always a guy). The hard-sell shrill shill is so...Bethesda.


On the topic of selling Vaults to the middle class: Of course you can sell them to the middle class, but that doesn't mean you have to let them in. What are they going to do, sue? Vote their Congressman out of office? The 50s focus on catering to the desires of the middle class, who were numerous, had money to spend, and had a lot of pent-up demand for goods/houses/college/etc., was just as much about shaping those desires to align with what was good for elites.


Back to the trailer: tentacle-thing pseudo-centaurs, a Dogmeat with a strangely anthropomorphic face, The Charge of the Ghoul Brigade, Fat Man, more exploding heads and limbs than a Joe Bob Briggs 10-on-the-vomit-meter drive-in-movie fever-dream, slow-motion Vats action...where do I pre-order? Better yet, is it possible that they would allow me to pre-order more than one, just because I'm so grateful?
 
LuckyOasis said:
Somebody said not to support Bethesda and Fallout 3 on something along the lines of "our own turf." Whose own turf? I have been coming to this website for years, I loved the first two games, and I am excited for Fallout 3.
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Don't let the haters get you down. There is no such thing as turf. I'm not leaving this neighborhood just because some people here disagree with my high opinions of Bethesda and Fallout 3.
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I'm surprised about this, but I agree with LuckyOasis. If this trailer makes you want to go buy the game, do it. Who are we to say what's right for you? Nobody, that's who.

.... That said, I had a few issues with the teaser.

First: the popping out babies thing. Not even remotely retro-'50s. Hell, "Lucy" couldn't even show Lucy and Ricky's BEDS together. Swing and a miss.

Second: running ghouls. So much for "we've played the originals a billion times and we're the biggest fans EVAH!!!111!!11!!!!" excuses. The ghouls didn't run. Nor did they look like zombies with leathery skin. Their skin was flaking off, and they walked VERY slowly. Even in distress. Total fail.

Third: VATS. Dear
Lord
VATS.....
Yes, the original Fallouts were bloody, but at least you didn't have a freaking bullet-cam running every time you shot something. I got sick of it after the second time, and the Fallout sounds started to really piss me off. Like it was a little insult bleep that was telling me "There's going to be at least one more FINO. *bleep*"

Fourth: the rag doll physics. Just awful. As someone mentioned (I think it was in this thread), the dismemberment looks like something out of the Lego games.

Fifth: fatman. Nuff said.

Sixth: EXPLODING CARZ!!!! Another self-explanatory thing.

Seventh: Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this way, but Dogmeat looks like a wolf. Or at least a half-wolf. Not even close to the Mad Max nod in FO1.

Though, I do have to say, the Vault looks quite nice. Though those outside shots look very uneven.... some I say "Yeah! Great job!" and others.... well, I think a lot of us at this point have seen that somewhat blurry screenshot of the...er...raiders?.... in the orangey suits that look like something, at best, from 2004.

Immersion my arse.

Also- don't think it would've killed 'em to show off some dialogue. The fact that they haven't makes me very, very worried.

My main fear is that they've spent so much time on the ranged combat that everything else- including dialogue- will essentially be the same as in Oblivion. Considering the recent news of "No VATS in melee," I'd say this is not a very "out there" guess.... but I could be jumping to conclusions. In all honesty, logic's never been my strong suit.
 
I was shocked, because I saw something, that really looks like it is from Fallout.

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