Pete Hines said:
Is it just me or does it look like he's defending the amount of violence in the game?
Because if he is, that's kind of sad.
(If he isn't and he's just comparing it to Gears of War, that's also sad)
Fallout 3: new gameplay footage and hands-on at E3
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Is it just me or does it look like he's defending the amount of violence in the game?
Because if he is, that's kind of sad.
(If he isn't and he's just comparing it to Gears of War, that's also sad)
Bodybag
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Well, YMMV, but the only wandering around I ever did was in search of a fence for my black market silverware racket. What's odd is how satisfying all that turned out. Especially when it led to some Indiana Jones-inspired native mob chases, only instead of trying to recover some idol they worhiped, it was in pursuit of some mook's dessert fork.
Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Bodybag said:
I played for an hour before becoming soo disgusted that it ran at ~20 fps when there were 5 or more enemies on-screen regardless of settings that I never touched it again.
God help F3 if it is running on that heap of trash oblivion engine that can't handle modern hardware worth a damn.
Brother None said:
Thing is, what's the point of all that "wandering around"? Nearly everything is geared as rewards to make you better at combat, which as anyone will tell you, is arse. Aside from that, you're just getting the stuff people grind for in MMOGs for free - like housing, clothing, levels. And as much as grind sucks, at least you get the satisfaction of working toward something.
Den Baster
First time out of the vault
Bethesda fuck us again and again 
on E3
on E3
The Fallout games were gorey as hell, but that wasn't the focal point of the game...
When they discuss combat, I want to hear specifics, like how much stats actually play into it, and weather or not melee combat is even viable. I haven't heard them discuss melee combat since the early interviews...
The fact that when they talk about the combat system, their highlights are severed limbs, it really makes me wonder if they're doing *anything* right in terms of making a real Fallout RPG...
When they discuss combat, I want to hear specifics, like how much stats actually play into it, and weather or not melee combat is even viable. I haven't heard them discuss melee combat since the early interviews...
The fact that when they talk about the combat system, their highlights are severed limbs, it really makes me wonder if they're doing *anything* right in terms of making a real Fallout RPG...
Section8 said:
It had no point.
But it was still fun.
ter said:
Then again, Lou and the Master were special, unique death animations, meant to get the attention and entertain. Kinda like cutscenes now.
Not that I fully disagree. Fallout's gorey 2D sprite deaths were pretty important to the fun factor of combat and to the game's overall feel.
fedaykin said:
What, are you serious?
The Lou Tenant internal mechanics ripping him to shreds is a classic death scene. If you didn't watch it a couple of times, you must have very small testicles.
Look, we're getting a bit ridiculous in being contrite here. If Bethesda didn't include any gore, we'd tear 'em to shreds. They do...and we complain about it.
Honestly, guys...SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Gore is good. Gore is an integral part of Fallout. Is it possible Bethesda is overdoing it? I dunno. All they've done so far is overstate it in PR, and try to equate gore to maturity. That is indeed stupid.
But when we're talking about the game itself, there's nothing wrong with a lot of gore, provided that the V.A.T.S. slo mo sequences are optional.
The big downer in the apparent prevalence of gore is - course - that it's no longer special. You could pick up bloody mess as a perk and it'd overdo the violence, but I remember during one of my early playthroughs, I shot someone in Junktown with a shotgun and half his body blew out in a chunk. Me and my buddy spent half a minute staring at the screen before trying to figure out how we did that and how to be able to do it again.
Bethesda makes it sound like gore is no longer tied to either bloody mess or critical hits, and that's a shame. But whining about the gore itself? Don't. Even. Go. There. Period. Period.
Edit: ok on second read I think most of you would agree with the above. Still, while it's a valid point to talk about the prevalence of discussing gore when talking about combat, this isn't actually different than the PR of Fallout 1/2, and it's a bit silly to retro-complain about it.
Honestly, guys...SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Gore is good. Gore is an integral part of Fallout. Is it possible Bethesda is overdoing it? I dunno. All they've done so far is overstate it in PR, and try to equate gore to maturity. That is indeed stupid.
But when we're talking about the game itself, there's nothing wrong with a lot of gore, provided that the V.A.T.S. slo mo sequences are optional.
The big downer in the apparent prevalence of gore is - course - that it's no longer special. You could pick up bloody mess as a perk and it'd overdo the violence, but I remember during one of my early playthroughs, I shot someone in Junktown with a shotgun and half his body blew out in a chunk. Me and my buddy spent half a minute staring at the screen before trying to figure out how we did that and how to be able to do it again.
Bethesda makes it sound like gore is no longer tied to either bloody mess or critical hits, and that's a shame. But whining about the gore itself? Don't. Even. Go. There. Period. Period.
Edit: ok on second read I think most of you would agree with the above. Still, while it's a valid point to talk about the prevalence of discussing gore when talking about combat, this isn't actually different than the PR of Fallout 1/2, and it's a bit silly to retro-complain about it.
So if you kill anyone it will be hilariously gory, but you can't kill children?
"Why would you even want to do that? You are sick! You're a sick person! ... Ooh, look at that guy's spleen suspended by a geyser of blood from his own neck artery! Let me shoot off his limbs and watch him hop around on one leg begging for his worthless life! BEFORE I BLOW HIM APART WITH A ROCKET."
"Why would you even want to do that? You are sick! You're a sick person! ... Ooh, look at that guy's spleen suspended by a geyser of blood from his own neck artery! Let me shoot off his limbs and watch him hop around on one leg begging for his worthless life! BEFORE I BLOW HIM APART WITH A ROCKET."
Per said:
That, too, is one of the more misguided bits of Bethesda's PR. "Do you really want to?" was such an inappropriate, Jack Thomson-esque response.
Brother None said:
On which I respond "Yes, I want too. I want to blow their damned brains out and use these as brushes to paint my virtual room in a lovely crimson red if I feel like it. Why? Because this is a game, and not damn reality!"
terebikun said:
All the body parts exploding into fountains of blood?