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Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by justsettheradio, Mar 9, 2016.
That's not minecraft, FO4 is expanded (and diminished in some way) Rust.
answer is simple. give Fallout 2 modern graphics and you have yourself a game of the year. Bethesda, being lazy as they are, were not very intelligent. If I was a bastard like them but not that stupid, I would have thought about instead of making a new story like fallout 4, go ahead and remake the old games. I wouldnt need writers, or concept artists...everything is already there! just remake it and ship it! then cash cash cash...people would get a good game even if im a bastard! and i would even win a prize of course.
Diarrhea vs fine wine.
Mix the two and you get an alcoholic shit-shake.
You see, Fallout 4 did nothing wrong because this one time fallout 2 did something like this
The only similarity between fo2 and fo4 is that fo2 is arguably the worst of the good fallout games writing wise (1,2, and NV). And fo4 is arguably the worst writing wise of the bad fallout games (BOS, 3, and 4).
so tactic is in the middle ?
I don't know enough about tactics tbh. I've barely played it at all. And something about it didn't feel quite right but it didn't feel like that bada game. don't know how good it is a fallout game tbh.
Yes. I felt like it was a shit game, but it's a tactical strategy game. It's all mission based too.
Okay, seriously, why is this even a thread?
Some guy wanted to compare the two sequels of Fallout's two owning companies I guess.
The problem is of course, while Fallout 2 is superior in every way to both Fallout 3 and 4 (making this exercise redundant), Fallout New Vegas also came to exist between Fallout 3 and 4.
A comparison between Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 2 makes more sense considering they were both actually made by separate developers from the original (Interplay to Black Isle, Bethesda to Obsidian), and both are the second Fallout game built on their respective engines.
Also, they're both really, really good.
I'm not so sure it is, actually. It's a tough bargain between it and New Vegas since while NV has a better (and more reactive) thing going on with it's main narrative and has a handful of characters that rise clearly above the rest in that game, Fallout 2 has a lot locations and even characters that, while not giving lectures on Hegelics, feel much more genuine and "alive" than anything in New Vegas. Say what you want about New Reno and its (not so fitting) mobster theme, but it is a better location than Freeside/Strip; Lynette and Marcus both have more genuine personalities than most of NV characters (even including Marcus himself in NV), for a couple of examples.
"Fallout 4 vs. Fallout 2" is like comparing a cheap toy car with the real thing.
Actually most of the NV characters felt more alive to me. @Kohno. Plus NV has the best npc dialogue hands down imo. If only it had played more like the classics....
Sidenote: New Reno actually doesn't bother me. San Fran on the other hand...
Yeah, one's for children.
That I can definitely agree with.
Yep! Currently playing through fo1 as a less combat oriented character (basically a hotheaded pacifist). Having a much better time than my previous attempts at a play through. Actually finished the game this time. Great ending though I wish there were actual dialogue options in the final confrontation with the overseer.
As I see it, the graphics from the first two games was perfect, actually beautiful. From an artistic point of view.
Modern graphics just don't do it for me....realistic they might be, but mostly uninspiring. Now I'm an old PC game lover, went through the 90s playing many of the classics, it was a time when design and story was the key factor in a games sales. Then along comes Fallout 1 and 2. Not only were the story and design fantastic, but the art was timeless, still to this day if you play the game at the proper display (640x480 - or the modern equivalent), the world just looks so convincing.
Bethards Fallouts just can't compare...
I agree, Fallout 1 & 2 had some very beautiful designs.
Looking at the tech demo stuff for Van Buren, the only thing that actually disappoints me is the aesthetic.
Also when it came to F2, no place really bothered me, maybe I saw burnt out on crappy settlements with F4 but New Reno felt in place, and San Fran was okay in my opinion. Thought it was a bit weird there was a Chinese Empire there that hasn't really expanded for 100+ years, but eh... it was okay.