Fallout: London, what I like so far

[Ugly Kid]

I would say that popularity [with fans of the originals in this case] is no test for authenticity of product. There could be a Mad Max vehicular-combat game with a Fallout label slapped on it, that uses 50's muscle cars... and be fun for all, and still not qualify as a Fallout game.

*Strangely enough there are games that are not Fallout IP, yet are closer to Fallout titles than Bethesda's work.

When I mentioned 'they', I include Obsidian, for they were certainly on the Bethesda leash when they developed New Vegas.

But to your point about international Fallout titles... I would agree that in theory a title could be made around a US military base on foreign soil, during wartime... but Fallout's timeline has the end of the world happen in two hours, and in keeping with the ~~humor, that the rest of the Earth is assumed a lifeless burn mark, with very little of even America left habitable.... and with no future, no serious chance of ever recovering; discounting anything from Bethesda of course.

I think (ignoring the dead world) that Obsidian, with additional past Interplay Fallout devs could (with the license) make a decent (Europe/Asia based) Fallout game akin to WL2/3 done in the style of Joseph Heller's Catch~22. But we will never get one out of Bethesda, or from any studio they can control.

The IP situation is [figuratively] like as if Tom Waits were tied to a publisher that demanded from him only bubble-gum top 40 dance hits.... nothing like what his original fans would want, and nothing they would be able to stomach.

I can't come up with any good counter-arguments, that might just be because i don't get most of the references, regardless I can accept that I lost the debate but my view still hasn't changed. Maybe I'll come around eventually as I grow as a writer because I look at the stuff I came up with/believed in even a few months ago and cringe.

Also what are the games closer to original fallout than Bethesda, is wasteland 2 or 3 included because I'm just getting into those.

 

[Gizmojunk]

...because i don't get most of the references...

Spoiler: Tom Waits:

Also what are the games closer to original fallout than Bethesda, is wasteland 2 or 3 included because I'm just getting into those.

I'd say WL2 yes; I've not played WL3 yet. I would even include Arcanum... not Post Apocalyptic (or retro 50's) at all, yet has very similar RPG aspects. Before they folded, Troika even had their own Post Apoc RPG in the works; that I bet was fashioned to be converted to F3 if they had managed to get the Fallout license.
(We never got to see the gameplay though.)

 

[killafornia]

I still don't understand the point of this whole suits, fedoras and ancient weapons being in a Fallout game. It's like most Fallout players forgot the fact that the bombs fell in 2077. That's the new image of Fallout I guess. Goofy looking 'mobsters', press people and funny folk. Ancient guns, dumb-ass power armors, sticks and bowties. Everything looks like they belong in the Planet 51.

 

[Crni Vuk]

I don't know. I just saw the trailer and it seems London in typical "Bethesda" maner looks like another location that was barely hit by bomb what so ever. What I liked about New Vegas was that they at least tried to explain why so much of it was left untouched due to House and his "protection" against nuclear weapons albeit it wasn't perfect it preserved at least the strip and parts of Vegas. But with what the trailer shows from London? It seems the city it self is also largey intact ... I know a realistic or authentic setting here would kinda be a bit boring eventually. But I still think the destruction of nuclear weapons should be at least a bit more believable. Just my 5 cents on this.