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Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Brother None, Jan 20, 2007.
I'd also have to agree that it might just be some kind of marketing ploy. If someone goes around telling everyone that Fallout1/2 was the most popular download/torrent then people might go "Hey if thats true, it must be good! Maybe I'll go get it too!"
Surely some people downloaded it. With the Fallout Box set that went out on the market last year it probably brought up some whole new attention to the Fallout series. Thus people start to download it off the internet. But ya... No way it was a billion times... Someones twisting the truth.
it'd be a stupid marketing ploy though. more likely to stem from Herve than Beth if that's that case.
it's pretty much pointing out that FO is available on torrents, so why buy it?
still, Beth has a history for putting spyware in their games, so why not...
No, it may very well be true. I myself am guilty of sharing some files last year and Fallout 2 was on my list along with Warcraft 3, which was very popular at that time. I would say Fallout 2 got at least half of my bandwidth and if the latest Warcraft game wasnt there it would've won by far and consumed all my bandwidth. I know it's hard to believe but I was surprised at first too. This game is very popular overseas as I later realized.
Only with the downloading from Brazil and Russia the figures must be huge (in China they just download the games from a very well known Chinese gaming community site). Having said that those particular figures are odd at best.
I can believe that Fallout is among the (or even THE) most downloaded torrents.
I don't believe the numbers though.
It's true that porn is rather popular, but few people share the same porn and with the rapid influx of new porn the torrents don't last very long.
Games OTOH have a tendency to stabilise after their initial spike around the release date. So classics and otherwise prominent games can last much longer than your average porn download.
All statistics are relative to the tracker in question, though, so it's pretty much impossible to figure out a representative figure.
Actually, the numbers may not be as far off as some of you think.
I'm just guessing from the posts, but most of you probably don't use Limewire. I used to (before it started getting glitchy as all hell and pissed me off), and I'd say about one of six downloads I got from there were just empty folders.
Plus, they may be counting partial downloads. My editon of Limewire counted all attempted downloads as downloads for my total. A lot of the people who use Limewire are on a 56k modem, and any DL you try to get from them is liable to be cut off repeatedly. Even on the DSL/T1/T3 connections, if you have only one or two sources, it can cut you off repeatedly if the person you are getting the DL from has a high number set for how many DL's they allow at once and they get bogged down. If they count each attempted DL, and each person had to try three or four times before getting a full DL that worked (for programs, my average was about four- a lot of them were passworded and didn't include a password or they just didn't work) the number could be 25% or more lower than the one in the article.
Of course, even that number is still a little hard to swallow...
Limewire has jack shit to do with torrents.
well you can download torrents with shareza so I assume you can with limewire. (though I sure wouldnt with either Id use azureus)
Limewire uses the same network and protocol Kazaa and other clients use, torrents work in a vastly different way. They are a completely seperate medium. It has nothing to do with eachother.
Erm, Sander... I think what he was saying is that Kazaa has support for the Torrent protocol. It's just a very crappy torrent tracker because there are much better ones.
Obviously Kazaa's native protocol is completely different. I've seen other file sharing tools go ahead and add Torrent support as well, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Well, he was talking about Limewire not Kazaa, but I know that. However, this was all in response to Talisien's factually incorrect post about Limewire downloads (using the Limewire/Kazaa/etc protocol), not about actual torrent downloads.
Whoooo go RDA on the oldest torrent list. At any rate, I agree, #1 Torrent = Fallout1-2 ...seems a bit odd to me.
Edited: To be coherent
Talisiens point was the kind of how statistics can be created,
as a parable it is absolutely correct, sure you can't compare
limewire and torrent, and that he was not doing,
he was just guessing.
It's got to be bull, I was roaming around on demonoid and Torrent spy, and they had 1 fallout torrent, and it was so crappily seeded I didn't even bother to look at it more.
The statistics maybe bullshit, but not less then your argument,
if you search for Fallout on different torrent sites, you get enough
downloads, some are with dead statistics, and to others are seeded well, there is Fallout 1, Fallout 2 and the Ultimate Collection.
I could understand if all the POS ones were dead, but that I can and will not verify.
well even though fallout demands respect and it should be the most popular game in histroy....but the numbers are surely cant be right...and here;s what i think happened...my friend discovered few days ago how to play with the torrent upload/download info...he made his ratio one of the porn site " 5545" !!! he uploaded "
10 000 tb"!!! so the torrent he used for thisjumped to the top list ....so maybe one the fallout hardcore fans wanted to honour it and did that ....thats just me though..
Or maybe it was Bethesda trying to get some name for their forthcoming TES V: Fallout!
The plot thickens. Dun dun dunn dunn!
Well... Maybe the statistics are a little bit (!) exaggerated but it is possible that the whole bunch of Bethesda fanboys wonder wtf is this Fallout everyone is talking about.
I can only pray that the Bethesda fanboys are curious enough to play F1 before they get to play F3...it'd totally win us huge support.
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