Fallout: New Vegas DLC announced - Dead Money

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Sam Ecorners, Nov 17, 2010.

  1. Makagulfazel

    Makagulfazel Adept Bungler of Things Orderite

    Jun 14, 2007
    Trouble is, people keep voting with their dollars. You can sit there and bitch and moan about a game all you what, but giving them $60 every 8 months is just reinforcing their development model.
    I blame stupid people more than anyone. It's upsetting to think that people paid $2.50 for some stupid shit like horse armor, but it's also equally upsetting to see that the most popular mod on the new vegas nexus is a nude mod. I spent $60 on Fable 2 when it came out, ffs. That game objectionably blows. If you can sell it honestly, do it. People buy stupid shit all the time and the only person that should be held accountable is themselves.
     
  2. rehevkor

    rehevkor It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Nov 19, 2005
    Maybe if New Vegas used Games for Windows like F3 did, I suspect Steam may be to blame for the lack of PC DLC in this case :/
     
  3. FEV Bunny

    FEV Bunny First time out of the vault

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    Nov 18, 2010
    It seems more resources are being put into the DLC rather than actually fixing the bugs...

    I mean you would 1st want to fix the mother object 1st before adding anything else that could make the mother object much more flawed.

    "only two things are infinite the universe and human stupidity and i'm not sure about the former" Albert Einstein.
     
  4. gumbarrel

    gumbarrel It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Oct 18, 2010


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  5. frosty_theaussie

    frosty_theaussie Still Mildly Glowing

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    Nov 22, 2003
    The GTA IV DLC was fantastic and walked the line between what people have come to expect from "DLC" and being a full blown expansion very well. The Ballad of Gay Tony does this particularly well.
     
  6. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    Haha, Molyneux.

    It just doesn't work that way. This is all following a set schedule.
     
  7. Kindo

    Kindo Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jun 26, 2003
    Indeed. Fixing bugs won't make the players buy the game again, while churning out DLC's will at least net some more profit for the publishers.
     
  8. hagren

    hagren First time out of the vault

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    Mar 12, 2010
    Given that I lost interest in New Vegas around 31 hours in, I don't care either way about this DLC.
     
  9. K.C. Cool

    K.C. Cool It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Nov 4, 2005
    I could be wrong about this being a game development strategy, but I really dislike the idea of a game design team having the full intent of making DLC's along side their core game to simply make more money after their core game is released. I don't like the goal of "making a complete and good game" being clouded by "how can we make a decent game and then later make $10-$15 a pop with other stuff?"

    That's one of the things that pissed me off about every one of the Sims games, there are glaring elements missing from the game that would otherwise just make sense to have included. Then a few months later an expansion pack comes out filling that missing area. These aren't "Oh, I forgot to include that, here it is but it's going to cost you a little bit." it's "Lets remove this from the game and include it later so we can make more money."

    I'd much rather wait another year to have a more complete game but that isn't going to make the game makers any more money, is it? There could be more resources being used to finish a game faster and make it better than to develop something to be released later along side the project you're working on.

    I think this is a major problem in the game industry, game companies are trying to see if their players will let them take advantage of them. Game companies are changing the standard of what we find acceptable and the market is not just taking it, but they're also throwing money at it!

    That's like if car companies started removing car stereos from cars and then for some reason people buy the cars anyway but have a feeling something is missing. Then, a car company reveals this cool new thing: a car stereo! And consumers are like "Omg! That would be perfect!" and spend more money for the two separate than it would have cost together in the past. Game companies used to make full games and release an equally full expansion pack later on. Those are two full pies, two full tasty pies. I don't want to spend the same amount for 3/4 of a pie and have to buy the other 1/4 for $10 later.

    Basically, with all these DLC's going on, it doesn't tell me as a player that the game company is looking out for my experience and enjoyment, but that they're looking for what's in my wallet. Just because we play for enjoyment doesn't mean we should be taken advantage of.
     
  10. warsaw

    warsaw Still Mildly Glowing

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    Dec 1, 2008
    Actually, that's called the Game of the Year edition.
     
  11. hagren

    hagren First time out of the vault

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    Mar 12, 2010
    One has to consider though how development costs rose since 3D became more sophisticated (Well, not a much with Bethesda's rendition of the Gamebryo engine :P), whilst video game prices remained virtually the same. They have to take that cash from somewhere.

    As for me, I'd rather pay a tad more for each game than to be nickel-and-dimed with DLC. Only exception so far were the ME2 DLCs which, though overpriced, were worth the MS points I've thrown at BioWare.
     
  12. K.C. Cool

    K.C. Cool It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Nov 4, 2005
    As much as I hate spending more money, I mostly agree with this. In terms of immersion, DLC's are also a bit of an interupt. They won't be near as exciting as, say, the next mission in a game's story. If I bought DLCs then I would play it after I completed and put away the original game. (Unless if you end up buying the GOTY edition like warsaw mentioned, then you might play them back to back.)

    I like episodic games more than DLCs, if I could play New Vegas in chapters released every 3-6 months (kinda like what Half-Life 2 does) then I'd like that much more, and would be more inclined to spend a bit more money. Though, an open ended RPG in chapters wouldn't work as well as a linear game...
     
  13. Jet and Cookies

    Jet and Cookies First time out of the vault

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    Jun 18, 2010
    I just love how they said it really "illustrates our commitment" to please the fans and such, it's the most hypocritical statement of the year for me. I mean, first you go about calling it a 360 exclusive, then you're charging money for it, and I'm sure glad we've got the DLC to show your commitment, because if it wasn't for Obsidian, FO:NV wouldn't have been worth picking up considering it would have been using the same engine and writing/aesthetic as Fallout 3.
     
  14. junkevil

    junkevil It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jun 20, 2007
    TBoGT is by far the best DLC for a game i've ever played. it serves as it's own story while fleshing out the existing story. it really feels wrong to call it DLC because it's almost like a new game.

    also, does anyone know if obsidian will be developing all the DLC for fnv? i have no idea how that contract works, but it sort of frightens me to think that todd howard and co could go and add shit to fnv. i mean, there is a crashed alien ship in the wastes with an alien blaster. you know what happened last time there was one of those...
     
  15. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    I can alleviate at least that fear from you junkevil, Obsidian is developing the DLCs.

    Avellone for example is handling 'Dead Money'.