cunningandvalor said:
Well, If it was an essentially casino-like vault, who says that the neon couldn't have already been set up in the vault itself? all they would have had to do is remove it and set it up outside
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Well, If it was an essentially casino-like vault, who says that the neon couldn't have already been set up in the vault itself? all they would have had to do is remove it and set it up outside
aenemic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Dionysus said:
well, I don't agree at all. there shouldn't be some kind of time limit on what you can call a sequel and what you call an expansion. it's all about content: if the game has enough content to stand alone as a full game, then it's a sequl. also, does it require you to own the previous game? if not, then it's a sequel. ("sequel" may be replaced with "spin-off" where applicable). an expansion is rarely a full game and requires you to have the original game installed.
that said, Modern Warfare 2 should have been an expansion to the first Modern Warfare.
Well, people just say this, because the graphic doesn't look totally different. Graphic whores, everyone. :>
cunningandvalor
It Wandered In From the Wastes
warsaw said:
Gizmo lived in a town where the economy was based on salvage, I think it's a lot more likely that they found the resources to make his small sign in Junktown than to suggest a ten-story custom neon monolith on the top of a building was constructed in or around a city that imports all of its construction and maintenance.
And the gameplay was pretty-much the same. Fallout 2 had a mild improvement in the way that companions were handled, and you could destroy some doors. It was basically just Fallout with a new story and some tweaks.Lexx said:
Anyway, it looks like the frame-rate is suffering pretty badly in some parts. Is that a 360 thing, or is it just an early build?
Yeah, but I don't see a problem in this. It was moar Fallout, exactly what everyone wanted to have.
cunningandvalor
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Incognito said:
Okay, I accept this reasoning, although they did say that the laws of the vault were “decided by chance” not necessarily that it was a casino during the Vault experiment. I think they were just governed by entropy, we’ll find out though.
aenemic said:
I totally agree with this statement. If you play Megaman 2 and Megaman 10, you’re going to have different experiences. Isn’t a game a procedure or strategy for achieving an end that includes diversion and amusement? If so, finding the water chip and locating a GECK are pretty seriously different ends, even if they both are just about survival.
F.E.A.R. Files is an expansion, uses the same shitty engine, and doesn't require you to have the original installed.
So I guess New Vegas can be considered an expansion.
If it uses the same engine, then it's an expansion. I don't know of any expansions that use a different engine from the original.
So I guess New Vegas can be considered an expansion.
If it uses the same engine, then it's an expansion. I don't know of any expansions that use a different engine from the original.
aenemic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Jet1337 said:
by that logic Oblivion, FO3 and F:NV are all expansions to Morrowind
So all the Spiderweb games are only expansions from the very first. Interesting... and wrong.
And so do many sequelz. Yet they are not seen sold as expansaions. Like others here already said. For a game to stand on its own it doesnt need inherently a new engine.Jet1337 said:
By that definition, Mass Effect 2 would be an expansion of Mass Effect as well.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Alphadrop
A right proper chap.
Wow, Half Life 2 has so many expansions. TF2, CS Source, DoD:S, Portal, VTMB, too many expansion packs to name.
aenemic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Alphadrop said:Wow, Half Life 2 has so many expansions. TF2, CS Source, DoD:S, Portal, VTMB, too many expansion packs to name.
not to mention how many expansions Unreal got and is still getting
So Mass Effect 2 is an expansion.
aenemic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Jet1337 said:
um... still not quite there, pal.
if it's an expansion, it's an expansion. if it's a stand-alone game, it's a stand-alone game. it's really not more complicated than that.
Shut up guys Fallout 2 is an expansion.
Lexx said:
Technically Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 are one game divided by comments by players that let the devs know what fits in and what doesn't. This can be said for all games in a series.
Over time the engines used will change and so will the features because of demand.
Expansions and DLC are one in the same. They add more content from the original game using the same assets.
"Sequel" is just a term used for anything that follows the original. I don't think it should be used as a noun.
tekhedd
Hoarding ammo IS gameplay
sampson70 said:btw..you could used the d-pad to switch weapons in fo3.|
I gotta get me one of them keyboards with a d-pad.