Fallout: The Garden

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by ELA, Oct 10, 2021.

  1. ELA

    ELA First time out of the vault

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    Oct 10, 2021
    The Garden Wasteland, the remains of what once was the state of New Jersey. Nestled between Ghoul York and the ruins of Philadelphia, the Garden is one of the few places that still has fertile soil with the potential of being a bread basket for the mid-Atlantic region.

    The Enclave after being driven out of the Capital Wasteland fled to Philadelphia and the Brotherhood eventually drove them into the ruins of Camden where they still are today. Forced to recruit from the local population the Enclave fight to purge the raider gangs from Camden. The mighty battleship the USS New Jersey still floats and the Enclave is working tirelessly to restore it to working order.

    The Brotherhood is there just across the Delaware River, waiting. Preoccupied with their expedition to the Commonwealth the Brotherhood has been unable to pursue the Enclave across the Delaware in force but small squads do cross the river on scouting expeditions.

    To the east is Great Lanta, the nation of freed slaves, who are in constant conflict with slaver bands in the Pine Barrens. The Pine Barrens are also home to the Pineys inbred degenerates not too dissimilar to the Swamp Folk of Point Lookout.

    Up in the Ramapo Mountains are the remains of the Ramapough nation, these solitary hill folk are weary of outsiders but some communities are open for trade. The Ramapough do partake in the practice of raiding but there is one community that makes it their lifestyle; they are known as the Jackson Whites.

    Then there is Ghoul York, built out of the highly irradiated ruins of New York City this east coast Necropolis is composed almost entirely of ghouls and mutants. Ghoul York’s governed by various mafia groups in an uneasy alliance, if they unite they could be a regional power.

    So what do you think
     
  2. Iprovidelittlepianos

    Iprovidelittlepianos Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    May 12, 2020
    It’s a fairly interesting concept, though you could do without the Bethesda lore. Get rid of the Enclave and Brotherhood, make original factions in their place.
     
  3. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Nov 26, 2007
    I say strip out all Bethesda lore; chuck it.
     
  4. ELA

    ELA First time out of the vault

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    Yes I know but sadly it exists, so I have to work with it. Also it’s to prove that I can make a better setting than them
     
  5. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Nov 26, 2007
    I can sympathize with that, but it's building new foundations over a swamp; it really doesn't have to exist unless you want, and choose to keep the rot and vandalism intact. No one here gives a moment's thought for FOBOS, and FO3 is essentially FOBOS 2.
     
  6. ELA

    ELA First time out of the vault

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    I do have an idea for a vault that is based around naval warfare and that they would be incorporated into the Enclave. Their whole goal is to get the USS New Jersey in working order.
    I'm treating it as cannon in the same way Bethesda treats Tactics as cannon. The big things happened and I can pick and choose from the smaller ones. For The Garden, the Enclave after fleeing Navarro went west along I80 through Chicago to DC following Eden's call. The thing is on their journey the Enclave picked up a cargo cult of tribals that followed them east. Once in DC President Eden ordered them purged but Col Autumn decided send them on a suicided mission to Philly to establish a foothold in America's first capital. The Brotherhood still arrives in DC but with different reasons as to why. Originally they were sent out to reign in the Midwest brotherhood but they got lost and hit Pittsburg and they do what they did in cannon. Once the scourge is completed they come across an Enclave eyebot and Lyons decides to go to DC. To Lyons the Enclave is his white whale what he wants to destroy most and to facilitate this he allows open recruitment of wastelanders into the Brotherhood. Project Purity is just part of a hearts and minds campaign the Brotherhood is engaged in. They Outcasts still split off and do their thing. Fallout 3 happens mostly the same as it did in cannon but without the lore breaks and that the Brotherhood doesn't care about Project Purity until the Enclave get involved. The Lone Wander passes the speech check at the end to get Autumn to leave Project Purity and he makes plans for an emergency evacuation to Philadelphia. Those loyal to Col Autumn head north while those loyal to Eden make their final stand in Raven Rock and Adams AFB. The Enclave is no longer in DC and the Brotherhood commences clean up operations to eradicate Super Mutants in the region.

    Alright now onto the stuff that happens right before The Garden. After Lyons death elder Maxson orders a detachment of paladins to go to Philadelphia to clear the road for the expedition to Boston. They encountered the Enclave and a force was assembled to drive them out. The Enclave was forced across the Delaware after heavy fighting. Maxson with his obsession with destroying the Institute, denies requests to cross the Delaware to pursue the Enclave in order to launch his expedition to Boston on schedule. Leaving the Enclave to regroup and rebuild in the gang riddled streets of Camden.
     
  7. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    I concur that you don't need the Enclave and the BoS. New York itself should be a breadbasket of new factions that would naturally spill over into NJ
     
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  8. ELA

    ELA First time out of the vault

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    According to the Fallout Bible NYC was nuked so hard that it is completely uninhabitable to humans
     
  9. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    Is that actually in the Fallout Bible or just fanon. I don't remember that.
     
  10. ELA

    ELA First time out of the vault

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    Fallout Bible last time I checked, so that’s why the ghoul mafia controls it in this. Also I’m just getting the big ones out of the way I’m going to add smaller ones as I go along
     
  11. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    Do you mind citing where? I remember NYC having a pre-war nuclear meltdown but I don't remember that
     
  12. ELA

    ELA First time out of the vault

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    I have no idea where I got it from but either way that’s what I’m going with because fuck New York
     
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  13. Aurelius Of Phoenix

    Aurelius Of Phoenix Psued.

    Mar 9, 2018
    The only reference I found mentioning New York is that a nuclear plant went supercritical. From the Fallout Bible.

    1. Fallout Bible 0: "June 2065 Due to enormous demands for electricity in the summer of 2065, a nuclear reactor in New York City almost goes critical. The near meltdown brings into effect power rationing, and the term 'Hot Summer' is used to refer to the New York incident."
     
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  14. Hardboiled Android

    Hardboiled Android Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 7, 2015
    In any c ase, I'd still recommend against heavily featuring the BoS or Enclave.
     
  15. ELA

    ELA First time out of the vault

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    So it was fannon, I'm still keeping it
     
  16. ELA

    ELA First time out of the vault

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    BoS is only mentioned in name and a few random encounters and the Enclave is contained in the bottom left of the map, so they shouldn't be that much of an issue
     
  17. Aurelius Of Phoenix

    Aurelius Of Phoenix Psued.

    Mar 9, 2018
    I have a fantastic idea, ghoul foot fetishist.
     
  18. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    I think that's a waste of NY but hey it's your setting
     
  19. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Resident Schizo Poster

    Jun 15, 2015
    I am pretty sure the Frontier devs have that fetish. I mean, ghoul fetish is in that mod numerous times. As for ghoul feet I have to check. I do know that underage feet are a big fetish in that mod.
     
  20. ELA

    ELA First time out of the vault

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    I mean Manhattan took two nukes, Brooklyn took one nuke, so did Queens, and then Saddle Brook and Union out in Jersey took one each as well. As for the Philly side one nuke hit Oxford Circle and another hit Spruce Hill. NYC is almost livable now but the ghouls have had a head start on resettling it and will be the dominate force in the city. Its called Ghoul York for a reason