Game Informer: Max Payne 3 in Brazil

Brother None said:
All that awesome progress and yet GTA IV PC still manages to run like a crack whore on a Saturday Night!
Including huge memory leaks!

rcorporon said:
If MP3 is like GTA IV (terrible) it'll mean I've had one of the worst gaming years I can remember.
How in all the holy hells was GTA IV a terrible game? The only terrible thing about it was its performance on the PC.
 
Sander said:
How in all the holy hells was GTA IV a terrible game? The only terrible thing about it was its performance on the PC.

Let's see:

-boring story
-boring characters
-lame girlfriend / dating mechanics
-bowling
-comedy shows
-mediocre graphics
-annoying, never ending calls about "American Titties"
-less "sandboxy" than the other GTA's
-no customization options for the player to choose

--

In short, I enjoyed GTA when it was Vice City or San Andreas.

GTA IV wasn't my cup of tea.
 
rcorporon said:
Let's see:

-boring story
I didn't think it was boring.
rcorporon said:
-boring characters
What? Are you serious? How are Brucie, Packie, Little Jacob or Manny boring?
rcorporon said:
-lame girlfriend / dating mechanics
largely optional, except for two occasions during the story.
rcorporon said:
-bowling
-comedy shows
optional
rcorporon said:
-mediocre graphics
Huh? I haven't found a game with GTA 4's scope that had better graphics.
rcorporon said:
-annoying, never ending calls about "American Titties"
You can disable those, IIRC.
rcorporon said:
-less "sandboxy" than the other GTA's
In what way, exactly? You can do all the things you did in the previous games, except there isn't a vast empty landscape like in (only) San Andreas.
rcorporon said:
-no customization options for the player to choose
Huh?
If you mean the RPG mechanics that were only introduced in San Andreas and didn't really serve a purpose, then I'm very glad they threw those out.

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rcorporon said:
In short, I enjoyed GTA when it was Vice City or San Andreas.

GTA IV wasn't my cup of tea.
Yeah, this isn't exactly the same as terrible.
 
Fitting that the discussion starts to lean towards GTA IV. Max Payne 3 looks like "GTA: Sao Paolo" anyway.
 
Hellion said:
Fitting that the discussion starts to lean towards GTA IV. Max Payne 3 looks like "GTA: Sao Paolo" anyway.

Hah no kidding. Some developers just can't leave their box I guess. I never had good feelings about this once I heard Remedy was out of the picture, McCaffrey being left out and these latest screenshots...meh.

Game industry just has to kill every good IP.
 
rcorporon said:
Boxster 987 is a terrible car. I mean:

-sluggish performance
-boring color
-annoying horn sound
-mediocre off-road handling
-petrol isn't environment friendly
-not enough room for my wife and five kids

In short, I enjoyed Boxster when it was 986. 987 isn't my cup of tea.
 
rcorporon said:
Meh... you guys like a game, and I don't.

Sue me.
No, but we don't call games 'terrible' and proof that subsequent games will also be terrible just because we don't *like* a game.
We only do that when it's called Fallout 3.

When you call a game terrible you should have some objectively solid reasons for it, not just the fact that you don't like the style of game.
 
Sander said:
No, but we don't call games 'terrible' and proof that subsequent games will also be terrible just because we don't *like* a game.
We only do that when it's called Fallout 3.

When you call a game terrible you should have some objectively solid reasons for it, not just the fact that you don't like the style of game.

I've enjoyed all previous GTA's up to IV, and I also like inFamous, so it has nothing to do with the style of game.

GTA IV, in MY opinion, was terrible. I didn't play more than 45 mins of it, as I found it's terribleness hard to take.

Simple as that.

As for my reasons, I've listed them. If you don't like it, that's something you'll have to deal with.
 
You're seriously going to call an entire game terrible because you didn't like the first 45 minutes? And then you list a bunch of reasons (which I all debunked), that are based on those 45 minutes of playtime, while most of the objectionable content are simply not present in the rest of the game?

Seriously, you call the characters boring while all the fun characters appear a little later in the game. You call the game less sandboxy even though you only played *45 minutes*?

And again: not liking the game is not a good reason for calling it terrible. If a game reviewer writes a review about NWN2, lambasting it because he hates RPGs, then everyone bals at it. For good reason.

As a comparison, Fallout 3 is a poor game because it is buggy, its writing is terrible, its characters are bland and one-dimensional, the choices you make have very little consequences, and there is almost no practical difference between your character development choices.

Those are all verifiable reasons based on a full playthrough. Not a list of minor gripes that aren't even based on giving the game a decent amount of time.
 
if you have only played 45 minutes of a game then called it shit, your opinions are no longer valid.

GTAIV was awesome, Vice City still holds a special place in my heart though.
 
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