Gun Control

Oh yes, very dangerous terrorist organisation!


I swear, a recruiting video from ISIS is a joke compared the them.

 

Dude, blackface is racist...….

 

Not blackface. It's an IRS balaclava and beret.

 

And the joke goes missing

And an edit an hour later:

Alright lets get the gun control topic back on the topic of gun control (just to watch it derail again)

Brazil relaxes Gun Laws

https://nationalpost.com/news/brazils-bolsonaro-loosens-gun-laws-first-of-expected-moves

 

He's one of those yanks who identifies as an Irish person.

Btw, the yanks provided weapons, explosives, etc. to the IRA who, among other things, came very close to assassinating Thatcher and John Major. They did assassinate a whole bunch of other folks, and killed civilians with car bombs etc. If I was British I wouldn't trust the yanks.

 

Hahhaha, pot calling kettle black, I mean we already covered how your country allied with the Nazis, so not much else to say but maybe nobody should trust the finns then EH?

 

Hitting me with the capital "eh", that's prime Canadian aggression.

Anyway, if you read up on the IRA, they were pretty ruthless and operating very freely and in very accurate and deadly way. Some Muslim terrorist might be happy to blow up a bomb in a square somewhere but the IRA went after the very top leaders. They, among other things, shot at 10 Downing street with a mortar that was inside a van and almost hit John Major.

But mortars are nice eh? IRA is a "well regulated militia", right? EH?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downing_Street_mortar_attack

 

Well, I don't think there necessarily are any 'good guys' in the UK vs. Ireland/IRA -conflict, a.k.a. "The Troubles". On the one hand you have UK trying to hold on to it's colonial past and the closest part of it's crumbling empire which is the Northern Ireland. Given how hard UK fought for the Falklands, the Irish were kind of underestimating the Limeys a bit maybe.

On the other hand, the Irish Catholic nationalists aren't necessarily nice folks either. They were against abortion, "every sperm is sacred" etc. And the yanks were providing them with money and hardware (guns, explosives, etc.). A case could be made that the help that yanks provided to the IRA ended up aiding the other terrorist groups such as RAF in Germany and also the pro-Muslim/Palestine terrorist organisations culminating with Al Queda and Isis and the present day mess. IRA communicated and cooperated with the forementioned groups.

 

You're more the RAF guy I guess.

 

I'm sure they'll resist the fuck out of tyranny.

 

No one will rise up and take his fire arms to fight tyranny, not in Brazil and not in the US.

On the contrary, there is a chance where we actually might see some trying to defend this administration when it's actually removed, particularly in the US. I mean some Trump supporters say they will start viollent protests if Trump gets impeached for example and some Republicans are in favour for postponing the 2020 ellection, if Trump calls for it. According to a survey by two accademics where they asked more than 1300 people, about 50% of the aprox. 600 which identified themself as supporters of the GOP agreed. Many often say, a tyrannical government is seeking to disarm the population, that's even correct. But it usually happens after they assume power, not during the transition where they might actually relay on armed resitstance and where armed supporters benefits them. There is always a period of transition when you see a shift from one system to another. A situation where the old system is weakend but the new eventually autocratic rule is not yet so strong to completely take over. A kind of chaos that benefits those, that seek to change everything in their favour. And you do not see liberals arming themself to the teeth currently. I am not saying every gun owner will take up arms, probably the majority won't. But we do have a situation currently where extremist movements on the right and the left seeks to arm themselfs.

What we experience right now, is a new form of fascism though. Part of the problem is, people have this image of fascism and authoriatrianism in their head, that looks like the Nazi Regime or Stalinism and North Korea and the like, maybe with a coup or a forcefull change, the Gestapo and camps and all that. But what about a decline of democracy? Strange enough, many americans, be it more on the conservative or liberal/progressive side of the political spectrum actually often agree on this perception that their vote matters less and less, which in tourn favours the fringe movements, the extremists. With the US more on the extreme right than the left which has also historical reasons (see Red Scare), but who knows, this might change in the near future and we might see more extreme leftist movements gaining traction, a situation like the 1920s in Germany.

What we see right now happening, seems simply to be normal. It has been a slowly progressing decline mostly build on legal laws. So I am not talking about Trump, the errosion of demcracy started a long time ago, trough money, lobbysm and corruption in politics and laws like the Patriot Act I and II. When you look at it, even Obama was a part of it. His administration detained and deported people, they drone striked civilians in foreign countries, they deregulated financial institutions and accepted money by lobbyists.

 

Uhm, I think you're missunderstanding my intention here I think. What I am talking about is transition, the decline of democratic institutions. Take Turkey as example. Is it a dictatorship? No. Is it a liberal Democracy? No. Or Russia for that matter. There are also paralles between Venezuale how things started there and the current development in the United States. Those kind of things don't happen to fall from the sky, neither did Nationalsocialism by the way, which formed during the early 1920s in Germany. The democracy in the United States has been erroding for quite some time and we currently see several effects amplyfing each other. A general distrust of the public in their own democratic institutions - trust in the Government is at an all time low, while at the same time lobbyism and money is gaining more and more influence and then you have Trump with his government shut down, muslim bann etc. The question is what ever if Trump will turn the US in to a fascist regime or not, but what will come after him.

History isn't something that's constantly repeating it self here and we have to make a difference between some bumbling idiots runing around and saying THEY ARE FASCISTS! Or if we're talking about how fascism becomes a possibility.

 

"Man them librdools detroying the meaning of words"
"Also, things clearly fascist aren't fascist"

Do tell though, what is it (Bolsonaro's funtimes hoedown) exactly if it isn't that?

 

Nothing, apparently.