How a nuclear war would play out in our world?

Unfortunately, I don't think human civilization would ever recover. If we're talking height of the Cold War numbers of warheads, then we're looking at an extinction event that would probably top the dino-killer. If we're talking about today, then most first world places would be still be annihilated, and while humans would likely survive, the utter demolition of society would cripple the world massively. Not a nice life at all.

Then again, I'm not an expert on these kinds of things.

The world would survive, there's plenty of research on this (much of it precisely in order to determine how a gvt would need to react, and such. There's several "theoretical simulations" of a nuclear strike on American targets, for example)

Consensus seems to be that major cities will be wiped out, along with large chunks of their population. Killing everybody is almost never possible, people- organisms - are notoriously hard to clear away.
So, the initial bombardment would - in worst case scenario - clear out a big chunk (although not all) of the world's urban populations.
Countrysides are vast, and make cities appear only like insignificant dots on the landscape. Countrysides are litterally unbombable. I mean, sure, you can bomb forests and fields, but wtf... ? Look at conventional bombing of hills and mountains, how many Talibans are left to kill? 10 000? Good luck bombing them hills! :D
People there will deal with the usual fallouty stuff - floods of refugees, rampant sickness (both from the radiation, but also from the collapse of infrastructure, meaning a lot would be infectious), hunger, and the chaos of lawlessness.

People will then not sit around and stare at the wall, they'll get right to work, people need to defend their own, feed their own, look after etc, so that's most likely what will be happening.

A blanketing "nuclear winter" is a matter of debate, so, none of us are experts, so I'm not gonna speculate about it.
So, that aside, there's no real reason that the world's green areas will suffer, if anything, they'll rejoyce, now that humanity has been devastated, production (and therefore harvest, logging, etc) grinds to a halt.
This could be good news for nature :D

A very loose estimate for human loss of life during an all out nuclear holocaust, I've seen one place half a billion initially, during the bombardment (worlds urban populations), for then a larger chunk to die off because of the diseases and other long-term effects.
In the end, world population would probably not even be halved.

It would probably disrupt a lot of the global political structure. If there was a UN, this would be difficult to maintain, w all the worlds capitals laying in ruin. Same goes for big, complex federations, like Russia, China, USA, India, Brazil, I have a difficult time seeing these giants keeping together, politically, after their capitals and metropolises have been utterly destroyed.
Organizations like "NCR" are therefore not too unlikely, as local populations would try to secure their own homes - by creating buffer zones, and then borders, and finally governments and armies of their own.
That's tons of speculation tho :D

Bottom line is - everything is relative
WW2 was the worst war in the history of all humanity, yet it did not even dent population growth on earth - it even spurred technological research.
Nuclear war will be yet worse, but still far from the end of humanity, even further from the end of the world.
Good point. But my discussions with my former biology teacher makes me think that a nuclear war wouldn't play out in our world. In fact discussions with other world leaders and those on the UN Security counsel state that the risk of nuclear conflict between now and 2100 is less than 2%. Going on that we wouldn't risk one. He stated it's more likely that a massive EMP or a Biological disaster like a virus will likely bring civilization to its knees.
 
Unfortunately, I don't think human civilization would ever recover. If we're talking height of the Cold War numbers of warheads, then we're looking at an extinction event that would probably top the dino-killer.

Haha, no. Not even close.
When we're looking at the K-T extinction event and assume it was a single impactor we're looking at a total yield of ~240,000 gigatons of TNT. At the very most the total human nuclear arsenal approached a few gigatons.
 
Unfortunately, I don't think human civilization would ever recover. If we're talking height of the Cold War numbers of warheads, then we're looking at an extinction event that would probably top the dino-killer.

Haha, no. Not even close.
When we're looking at the K-T extinction event and assume it was a single impactor we're looking at a total yield of ~240,000 gigatons of TNT. At the very most the total human nuclear arsenal approached a few gigatons.
It was at least 100 teratons of tnt. Our nuclear arsenal is no where close. Even the radiation wouldn't kill off as much life as the K-T impact did.
 
Unfortunately, I don't think human civilization would ever recover. If we're talking height of the Cold War numbers of warheads, then we're looking at an extinction event that would probably top the dino-killer.

Haha, no. Not even close.
When we're looking at the K-T extinction event and assume it was a single impactor we're looking at a total yield of ~240,000 gigatons of TNT. At the very most the total human nuclear arsenal approached a few gigatons.
It was at least 100 teratons of tnt. Our nuclear arsenal is no where close. Even the radiation wouldn't kill off as much life as the K-T impact did.

Yeah, figures vary depending on who you ask, but it's always on the order of hundreds of teratons.
 
Well, you learn something new every day. I guess my school greatly exaggerated the effects of nuclear war in class.
I think a lot of people exaggerate it. If anything a zombie apocalypse would be far worse in comparison....I think. I think viruses and bacteria are really the only thing that have a bigger chance to bring human civilization down to Fallout levels of shittyness.
 
The problem is that you simply don't know. It is one of those cases where you have to actually test it to validate your theory. At this point the effects of a nuclear war on a global scale, are in my opinion, not much more than a hypothesis.

Could it mean the end to humanity as a species? Most probably not. We are a pretty sturdy species, so much for sure, but even humanity has it's breaking point. The question is, can the eco system be fucked up so much that our planet becomes to hostile for us? A nuclear war would definetly end civilisation as we know it. And not just here, but pretty much everywhere. Definetly on the hight of the cold war when they had aprox 60 000 nuclear wareheads ready to be fired. Today there are something like 14 000 ? I am not sure. What effects it would have ... I think no one knows for sure. The increase of temperature, radiation, dust particles in the air and the pollution from fires.

It would definetly be a very different earth for those unlucky to survive ...
 
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Eh, we've got some pretty good ideas what long term radioactivity does to a region and ecology thanks to Chernobyl. The reality is though with the exception of a few specific pockets (hardened targets), nukes don't hit dirt, they're detonated in the air to maximize their destructive power, which means dirt isn't pulled up into the atmosphere creating fallout. Radiation ends up dissipating quickly enough etc. Nuclear winter is more or less fiction unless someone decided to be a real dick about things.

From a political/socioeconomic standpoint, some regions would become anarchist zones, others would carry on like they had. It would depend entirely on proximity to targets. Though, those two words sum up the entire mental exercise.
 
We can safely say that a nuclear holocaust would be exciting to our species.
Even a turn of events one could bet!
 
The problem is that you simply don't know. It is one of those cases where you have to actually test it to validate your theory. At this point the effects of a nuclear war on a global scale, are in my opinion, not much more than a hypothesis.

Could it mean the end to humanity as a species? Most probably not. We are a pretty sturdy species, so much for sure, but even humanity has it's breaking point. The question is, can the eco system be fucked up so much that our planet becomes to hostile for us? A nuclear war would definetly end civilisation as we know it. And not just here, but pretty much everywhere. Definetly on the hight of the cold war when they had aprox 60 000 nuclear wareheads ready to be fired. Today there are something like 14 000 ? I am not sure. What effects it would have ... I think no one knows for sure. The increase of temperature, radiation, dust particles in the air and the pollution from fires.

It would definetly be a very different earth for those unlucky to survive ...
Yes, it's a hypothesis. But then again testing it today would be a bit outdated considering the probability these days is so low. You'd have to go back to 1962 or 1983 to test a nuclear conflict at the cold war's height.
 
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