"People" being like, 10% of the population MAYBE? Terrible, is what that is.
Nearly all of the middle and upper class can pay for college. The lower classes can sometimes afford it given loans, scholarships, attending a low-cost college, or some combination of the three.
I agree that it costs way too much and that everyone should have a shot at going to college, but 10% is not an accurate figure by any measure.
Kharn wrote:
Yes, let's all be thankful that the draft has been replaced by fooling young naive kids into signing up by offering them money.
Yay America Rolling Eyes .
Yeah, what a racket that is. Offering loads of money to people that are going to put their life in danger. Would you rather they pay them dogshit and refuse to help out with education?
And, at any rate, I wasn't saying that it was the Greatest Thing Ever either. I was just saying that there is the possibility and that it does help out quite a bit with tuition.
KQX wrote:
Not True at all. As i said before, community colleges have a much simpler curriculum. How else can all these people finish all those degrees while balancing out part time jobs? And you cannot always transfer to better universities later. Either they won't accept you at all, or they will not accept many of your credits. You can't compare the classes you take at a community college to the classes at normal universities. The classes might share the same title, but that's about it. I'll give you an example. My cousin and I both took macroeconomics at the same time (same introductory course), but she goes to a community college while i took the class at Northwestern. She had the class from January through May, while i had it from January through March (semester system versus quarter system). Even though i had the class for a shorter time, i had much more material covered at my school than she did. While they focused mostly on general theories our class consisted of a discussion section, mathematical problems, and required 2 textbooks (one for the general theories and one which focused on specific economists). The difference was also obvious when we compared exams. While her's were all multiple choice, mine required many mathematical problems, essay questions, and graph drawing.
My mistake, sorry. I just thought that they were at least similar because my father worked on his mba at both community college and a regular university and they accepted nearly all of his credits. I should have known that business classes would be different than math ones, but I rushed to conclusions.
KQX wrote:
It's not all that great for everyone. I was accepted to university of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, but since i was not a resident of the U.S. at the time, i had to apply as an international student. And guess what: almost $30 000 tuition with room and board. So i basically told all the State schools I've been accepted to to go fuck themselves. If i'm going to be overcharged i might as well go to a better private school. Also, while Champaign does qualify as one of the top state universities, it is still a state school and can't really compare to the Ivy league private ones (although there are certainly worse private schools).
State schools do price-gouge out of state people, it's true. But that's why they're state schools- they're intended for that state's residents. And, Champlaign is definitely one of the top state schools, and there are a few like it (UVA, for instance) that are much more expensive than others. Overall, I'd say, state schools are a lot cheaper than 30k a year. I'd say a third of that for a resident of that state.
Point taken, though. They do fuck international and out-of-state students over.