Hypocrisy: Season passes

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So, It seems that Angry Joe and a lot of fans are in a uproar over the latest Season pass announcement over Battlefront 3, latest installment in the series.




So, It would seem everyone is pissed off at at EA for doing this, While i don't support season passes. It caught my eye how everyone is flipping their shit over this. While Bethesda in particular are doing the same exact shit right in your face. It bothers me immense. They started really shitty DLC practices with their Horse Armor DLC. Why not hold them to the same standards joe? Everyone on that comment section i know has to have sometimes to bethesda. So, why the fuck do you lynch, and go on a witch hunt for EA. However, when Bethesda does it. You are "okay" with it.

Go fuck yourself, Angry joe and anyone who honestly has this double standard in regards to Bethesda practices as well.
 
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Because the DLCs of Fallout 3's and Skyrim (with the exception of that Hearthfire...thing) were pretty decent?

Also Fallout 4 and Battlefront are like completely different games
 
People should stop buying things that don't even exist yet. Bethesda already said that they don't even know what the DLCs are gonna be about but they are ready to sell them to you on day 1, no wait BEFORE day 1. It's just in general a complete lack of respect towards us as consumers and as people.
 
I like the idea of a season pass as a "bulk discount" on all the DLC that you get after all of it is released. In practice it ends up like this sometimes (you can still buy the Borderlands 2 season pass on Xbox Live, and that game came out in 2012.)

As long as they don't stop selling the season pass after all the DLC is out, you can treat it like this. As for buying the DLC in advance, it's really no sillier than preordering games and lots of people do that all the time (even though it doesn't make any sense really.)
 
CoD and Battlefield season passes aren't even good. They're map packs for stuff that are purposely left out for extra $$$. Bethesda's DLC's may not be the best, but I would rather spend $9.99 for new environment to explore and things to do than pay $14.99 for 4 tiny multiplayer maps, 2 of which are probably variations of a previously made map, four times an installment is released.
 
The only game I EVER preordered was GTA V and that was simply because I grew up with GTA and played GTA 3 to TBoGT and thus expected it to be fine since all the others were. Other than that, never.
 
Walpknut said:
Pre ordering games is stupid too.
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I don't see why. If I know I'll buy the game anyway? Like Deus Ex. I can pretty much preorder it now, because I will buy it on release anyway.
 
Batman Arkham Knight. Alien: Colonial marines. Nuff said.
You never know if the game wil leven work out of the box, I also never buy on day 1. I usually wait until reviews come in and I watch people play through the initial stages of the game before I buy it.
 
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Walpknut said:
Pre ordering games is stupid too.
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I don't see why. If I know I'll buy the game anyway? Like Deus Ex. I can pretty much preorder it now, because I will buy it on release anyway.
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Well, even if it's something you love there's a chance that the finished product will end up being terrible so you're better off waiting to read reviews. Within a month it's probably going to be on sale for at least $10 off, and if you're willing to wait like 6 months it can be yours for a third of the price.

But even if you're convinced you're going to buy it on release day, there's no reason to preorder it since it's not like stores actually run out of copies of anything.
 
I pre order certain games. I pre ordered my PS4 copy of Wasteland 2 because I knew my local store wouldn't have gotten it in other wise.
 
Not saying the Fallout 4 Season Pass is worth it, but I think the reason more people are pissed about the Battlefront DLC is because its $50. Almost the price of a new game.
 
Stuff's worth what people will pay. It's awesome to think about, that the body of economy is shaped by the emotional whim of people. We are all doomed.
 
There is a massive difference between a season pass, and clearly holding back game content to then sell to people in special versions. Season passes are fine as they are basically cheaper DLC you'd have to pay for anyway.

If Bethesda was saying the T-51b armor was extra money, then it would be what he is talking about. This crap from EA is asking you to pay for unlock shit and stuff they should've just had in the game anyway.

The DLC is gonna cost you money no matter what, and you're not forced to buy it and it's extra content.
 
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Battlecross said:
There is a massive difference between a season pass, and clearly holding back game content to then sell to people in special versions. Season passes are fine as they are basically cheaper DLC you'd have to pay for anyway.

If Bethesda was saying the T-51b armor was extra money, then it would be what he is talking about. This crap from EA is asking you to pay for unlock shit and stuff they should've just had in the game anyway.

The DLC is gonna cost you money no matter what, and you're not forced to buy it and it's extra content.
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Bollocks, painting the assertion that it's merely optional and therefor not a problem is not a valid reason to speak up and object.


I don't like season passes, but if i did and i complained about EA and how their doing the same shit as Bethesda with content in the future being promised without us knowing. Without speaking the same about bethesda? I'd ideologically be inconsistent and by that extent a hypocrite.

Besides you don't even know what you are getting with seasons passes, what if you don't like it or fallout 4 for the matter? You are pretty much cuckold and fucked. Unless you want to go through steam, Federal Trade Commission and Better Business Bureau.
 
Battlecross said:
There is a massive difference between a season pass, and clearly holding back game content to then sell to people in special versions. Season passes are fine as they are basically cheaper DLC you'd have to pay for anyway.

If Bethesda was saying the T-51b armor was extra money, then it would be what he is talking about. This crap from EA is asking you to pay for unlock shit and stuff they should've just had in the game anyway.

The DLC is gonna cost you money no matter what, and you're not forced to buy it and it's extra content.
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But buying DLC sight-unseen is still a bad idea since you might not want every piece of DLC, you might not get what you're promised, or some of the DLC will end up much better than other parts. Take Bioshock Infinite for example, they sold a ton of season passes on the promise of 4 DLC packs. They ended up releasing one terrible combat arena pack and a big DLC story cut into two halves. 99% of the people who bought the Bioshock Infinite season pass at release would have been better off just buying Burial at Sea a la carte.

I mean, it's one thing to preorder a game, and it's another thing to pay for DLC before anybody has started working on it (sure, work has started on the first Fallout 4 DLC, but almost certainly not the third.)
 
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If games were ensured to be fully functional out of the box and if the gaming press was transparent and trustworthy then Preordering wouldn't be any problem, alas they aren't and many preorder schemes are very anti consumer, usually locking content away from more cautious buyers and even encouraging people to recruit others to do the same, like that Deus Ex HD "Augment your preorder" scheme.
 
Walpknut said:
If games were ensured to be fully functional out of the box and if the gaming press was transparent and trustworthy then Preordering wouldn't be any problem, alas they aren't and many preorder schemes are very anti consumer, usually locking content away from more cautious buyers and even encouraging people to recruit others to do the same, like that Deus Ex HD "Augment your preorder" scheme.
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I think you'd still run into situations where a game is fully functional, the press is absolutely transparent and trustworthy, but the game just ends up being terrible which is not something you would know about when you preordered it.

I mean, say for an example that a game has a good hour of gameplay in it, but the remaining 19 are just awful. Before review copies are sent out, nobody gets to play more than the first really good hour, but an hour of a game sounds like a good long time and everybody who played it enjoyed that hour. So it gets a lot of positive press (which admits they only played it for an hour, something nobody faults them for since that's a good long time) and a bunch of people preorder it. The only way to avoid the "the rest of the game is terrible" problem is to wait for the game to actually come out so you can hear the opinions of people who played all of it before buying it.

I mean, until the game is actually sent out to reviewers all access to the game is controlled by the publisher who uses controlled access of it as part of their marketing strategy. You should never buy something based solely on marketing.
 
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