UncannyGarlic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
I'd say that Fallout 2 is both the better game and the better sequel. Fallout 2 basically improves on Fallout in every area except setting and plot with some mistakes with overpowered, non-special encounter weapons. They both such when it comes to canon, Fallout 2 more because of all of the cool and funny stuff (New Reno, Hubologists, etc.) and the Enclave are too evil (the idea that they are cleaning up the wastes is good, the problem is that they did stuff like kill off Vault 13 which goes in the face of that). Fallout 3 really doesn't have any area that works in the Fallout setting and really seems to be more of a general step down from what Fallout 2 was as it lacks any fitting settlements (though Fallout 2's breaches of the forth wall might make it worse for some folks), though they are both terrible in this regard so it's a pretty pointless argument.
As for general game, I'd say that Fallout 2 is has more satisfying combat for the combat it has than Fallout 3 does, though I admit that I don't get the appeal of TES-like games (need to play Daggerfall and Ultima Underworld one of these days). Fallout 3 has a mish-mash of RPG elements getting in the way of FPS combat and the RPG elements are poorly designed and allow for the player to max out every skill, thus breaking the system. I will give Fallout 3 that it likely has better shooting combat than Bloodlines and that it's not the worst FPS ever. As for quests, quest design, plot flow, and pacing, all of those go to Fallout 2.
As for general game, I'd say that Fallout 2 is has more satisfying combat for the combat it has than Fallout 3 does, though I admit that I don't get the appeal of TES-like games (need to play Daggerfall and Ultima Underworld one of these days). Fallout 3 has a mish-mash of RPG elements getting in the way of FPS combat and the RPG elements are poorly designed and allow for the player to max out every skill, thus breaking the system. I will give Fallout 3 that it likely has better shooting combat than Bloodlines and that it's not the worst FPS ever. As for quests, quest design, plot flow, and pacing, all of those go to Fallout 2.
Haven't played Redemption but Bloodlines is worth picking up for everything but the combat, which I found to be dreadful (especially guns). The character interactions (more particularly the voice-acting and animations) are second to none and should still be the standard which games are held up to (they are for me at least). I never played it unpatched but from what I've read, it had some killer bugs so patches are a must.k9wazere said:I keep hearing about V:TM. There's two games, right. Redemption and Bloodlines.
What does NMA think about them? Worth picking up?