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Neverwinter27
First time out of the vault
Jabu said:
I didn't see guns in Oblivion, nor cars ,refrigerators, computers.Or a Helicopter vehicle. Jabu, can you pull up some screenshot comparisons side by side of the two games, maybe im not seeing something here.
Neverwinter27 said:
I'm not defending him, I was just pointing out your misunderstanding of his words (i.e. you said "the textures are copy and pasted", whilst that's absolutely not what he meant).
Also: Are you fucking serious? What the hell do you think he meant? Ever heard of 'slight exageration'?
If I really have to spell it out for you, here goes: (I believe) He was referring to the fact that from a technological standpoint, overall the game looked very much like Oblivion, sans the obvious changes in style, atmosphere, new objects et cetera. You know there was no pip-boy in Oblivion either. Comprende?
Either way, I wasn't supporting his claims, I was just translating them for you.
Neverwinter27
First time out of the vault
He can reply back himself don't worry about it. I didn't even start the argument as well.
As for technological standpoint, it would make sense since different companies have their own sets of resources and tools at their disposal. But if they just re use the old fallout engine, with the same graphics, just stuff moved around, it wouldn't satisfy them either. Or would it? They would save even more time, and money by going this route actually.
As for technological standpoint, it would make sense since different companies have their own sets of resources and tools at their disposal. But if they just re use the old fallout engine, with the same graphics, just stuff moved around, it wouldn't satisfy them either. Or would it? They would save even more time, and money by going this route actually.
Noneoftheabove
First time out of the vault
The vid previews are always great, but I would appreciate a little more attention on the role playing aspect! Unless the whole game is as presented and you're just going around whacking things for no good reason.
Of course there is a reason for you stilting around the wastelands of DC blasting everything in sight.
Don't you see it ?
It's not easy being a miniature space hamster clone gone bad.
Especially not when your developer, I mean father goes away on a fishing trip and the rest of the Vault decides they don't like the smell of your fur.
Since your Intelligence is that of an illtempered rodent you want to bite everything to see if it tastes well...
Or maybe I just want a more nutty story.
Don't you see it ?
It's not easy being a miniature space hamster clone gone bad.
Especially not when your developer, I mean father goes away on a fishing trip and the rest of the Vault decides they don't like the smell of your fur.
Since your Intelligence is that of an illtempered rodent you want to bite everything to see if it tastes well...
Or maybe I just want a more nutty story.
God is Dog backwards
Mildly Dipped
The popups bug me - 'you have discovered XXXXX town!'. I wish we could turn those things off.
13pm
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
Can anyone explain me what's hanging out the vault boy's mouth on the health stats picture?
And Bos - Knights of this era... sigh...
And Bos - Knights of this era... sigh...
Anani Masu said:
I have been working on modeling the F2 APA, and did a number of studies from the limited amount of images available of the Enclave armour. Most of what we can see in detail is only the area above the shoulders.
Forehead: F2 APA helmet forehead is quite recessed. However, the shallowness of the area above the eyes makes it seem unrealistic to fit a head in such little space . New Enclave forehead is smooth and dome-like, and has more space to fit a proper human head. The protruding tubes behind the head are obviously different.
Face: F2 APA looks more skull-like, and has got tubes also coming out from both sides of the cheek. New armor has none (visible). F2 APA also has some coiled wire widget for left ear piece. The face of F2 APA looks more like some jet engine intake, new one looks more protruded: like a snout.
Shoulder: From what I can tell, the close up rendered armour and the in-game version are different. In the close up, shoulder piece and collar/back are separate. The collar/back piece seems to be the prominent piece, and shoulders are smaller, hidden beneath it. The in-game version shows the shoulders to be one single piece combined with the collar/back, like one flexible mass. Which version is correct, hard to tell; but the main thing is that the iconic APA look comes from the neck-less imposing collar. The new Enclave shoulders are more like separate pieces, a bit like FOT armour.
Exposed joints: F2 APA has got exposed bits in the elbows, knees and waist that look like beige/brown coloured padded material. New Enclave armour only has exposed joints in the elbows and groin area, plus a belt around the armour-plated waist.
You can say the new Enclave armour borrows elements from both FOT and F2 armours, but the end result looks nothing like the iconic classic. The classic look of the F2 APA is hunched shoulders, and bug-like eyes (kind of like an armoured beetle). It also looks a bit like the coats worn by nazi troopers, with high collar and what-not. If you remove the helmets, both BOS and Enclave armour in F3 look very similar.
Edit: Fallout 3 Enclave Armor pictures from Anani Masu. Fallout 2 Advanced Power Armor pictures from The Vault, contributed by Ausir.
God is Dog backwards
Mildly Dipped
Was gonna complain about the crippled head thing (beyond the fact that it's... a crippled head), but that appeared in the originals too, in the text box.
Can I quote your comparisons of this PA with FOT PA and FO2 APA in The Vault?
One more thing - maybe, since in FO2 the APA and APA Mk2 are identical, Bethesda assumed that it was just an in-game simplification and decided to make the Mk2 it different from the basic APA, thus creating this design?
After all, APA was "composed of lightweight metal alloys, reinforced with ceramic castings at key points", while Mk2 is "composed of entirely of lightweight ceramic composites rather than the usual combination of metal and ceramic plates". Does it make much sense of them to look the same?
One more thing - maybe, since in FO2 the APA and APA Mk2 are identical, Bethesda assumed that it was just an in-game simplification and decided to make the Mk2 it different from the basic APA, thus creating this design?
After all, APA was "composed of lightweight metal alloys, reinforced with ceramic castings at key points", while Mk2 is "composed of entirely of lightweight ceramic composites rather than the usual combination of metal and ceramic plates". Does it make much sense of them to look the same?
Anani Masu
Still Mildly Glowing
And if you are talking about my post you can use it if you wish. I just wish we had better shots of the helmet where the lower jaw area is obscured by his hand and a good side view.
Briosafreak
Lived Through the Heat Death
TTTimo said:
Good work man, very interesting
AssassinEdge187
First time out of the vault
Brother None said:You'd almost think they're paranoid about information
I agree with you. The more I know, the less I feel like playing it.
Did any one else find it hilarious that you can cure your crippled arm with a stimpack?
