Implants

[alec]

* sees some familiar faeces, uhm, faces *

OMG, it's purist time!

Call them what you want, I call them implants. Implants, goddamnit!

* mumbles: "If they'd stick their fingers up their ****, would they call them implants too?" *

* leaves the thread, suddenly totally disinterested *

 

[Role-Player]

Whoa. What Silencer said

 

[Silencer]

Well... I'd sure hate to see my fingers disappear should I ever insert them into *that* orifice.... [shrugs]

What did I say, then?

 

[c0ldst33ltrs4u]

(Although perhaps a ST increase would involve grafting some additional muscles to the body )

I don't think that extra strength requires extra muscles, just better exercise, the muscle fibers increase in volume and not in number. I wonder how it managed to improve perception, charisma and intelligence, I mean did ACE have a sense of esthetics, or something like that. And what about intelligence? About that third limb, how would you modify the skeleton, in order to support it?

 

[APTYP]

Perception may be improved by some sort of operation on sensory organs or perhaps nerve tissue connecting them, charisma - simple plastic surgery, intelligence increase - by removing the crayon from the frontal lobe.

 

[kmanweiss]

Not to be overly critical but charisma is more than outward appearance.
It's appearance, charm, and personal magnetism.
Hitler was very charismatic, but not very pleasing in appearance.

In essence, Intelligence and Charisma are actually connected in some ways.

A super mutant may be ugly, but may have high enough charisma to lead a town. Marcus.

But someone may also be very good looking, but be a complete moron, and therfor be unable to inspire anyone.

So the charisma upgrade could just be protocol. How to act, behave, and treat others.

 

[APTYP]

True, but it's way much easier to give you a gruff voice and a masculine square jaw.

 

[Role-Player]

A super mutant may be ugly, but may have high enough charisma to lead a town. Marcus.

Or a minigun.

 

[Silencer]

About that third limb, how would you modify the skeleton, in order to support it?

I suppose that you could attach an additional "overhead" arm to the clavicle to the side of the neck. Or you could attach a set of additional arms below the original two if you managed to install extra clavicles and spatulas to your back. Control over them could be exerted with the aid of computer circuitry acting as an interface between the nervous system and the implants.

This is to be done in a hard sci-fi setting, however, not post-apoc.

And, most importantly, what for?

 

[Tyler]

Did you guys forget about the lingual enhancer (you know, when you go to bed with Bishop's wife or something) and the medical enhancer (which you can get from Renesco if you... well, figure that one out yourself). That's more than enough implants in one game, me thinks.

aaah... just for the record... these works just like books... like learning devices and they just dissapears once they are of no use to u... why the fuck would you keep them? to sell them. there is enough possibilities of getting the moneys in the game. and how do u use lingual and medical enhancers? they are being inserted into pipboy, u know... the little allmighty machine

 

[c0ldst33ltrs4u]

This is very interesting and all but why worry about all this shit, they just are there, implants, improvements and whatever else strikes your fancy. It is kind of pointless to ask most of these questions... You want a question?
* How is a set of Power Armour built?
* Where do you fit in all the machinery that is supposed to control the whole thing?
* How does the user interface with it?
* How can you sneak in that thing?
* Where do you stash all the stuff you loot, what you have Santa's bag in you pocket?
Need I continue?

 

[alec]

and how do u use lingual and medical enhancers? they are being inserted into pipboy, u know... the little allmighty machine

That is f****** Brahmin crap, my man. Read the f****** description that comes with these enhancers and judge then! The enhancers are put on the head of the character and transmit some shit to your brain! I really wish some people would f****** check the game before trying to say something that is utter crap! Amateurs! :badmood:

And if you little b******* don't f****** believe me, than f****** play the game first and talk afterwards! Jesus f****** Christ, this is something I really goddamn hate. Twerps! Dorks!

Nothing about attaching anything to the character's body there.

OH NO? You put the headgear and the optical sensor in your back door then, huh? You nitwit!

READ THE F****** DESCRIPTION FOR YOURSELF:

Pip Boy Medical Enhancer

This Pip Boy medical enhancer consists of a storage holodisk, microfilament cord, headgear, and an optical sensor that is placed over the user's left eye. When used, an optical flash transmits a dictionary of physician skills and know-how into the user's memory, permanently improving the user's doctor skill. It weighs 8 pounds.

How would anyone improve from just putting something in that f****** Pip Boy anyway? Huh? Sure, you put the holodisk in there, but the info has to get into your head, you know? You twerps are like f****** obsessed with that Pip Boy thingie anyway. Pip Boy here and Pip Boy there... According to you guys, you can probably take a s*** with a Pip Boy too, huh? F******! I already told you: I'm not in the f****** mood to discuss something that is so f****** obvious! Now go play with your Pip Boys!

 

[c0ldst33ltrs4u]

That is f****** Brahmin crap, my man. Read the f****** description that comes with these enhancers and judge then! The enhancers are put on the head of the character and transmit some shit to your brain! I really wish some people would f****** check the game before trying to say something that is utter crap! Amateurs!

And if you little b******* don't f****** believe me, than f****** play the game first and talk afterwards! Jesus f****** Christ, this is something I really goddamn hate. Twerps! Dorks!

NOW READ THE F****** DESCRIPTION FOR YOURSELVES:

Quote:
Pip Boy Medical Enhancer

This Pip Boy medical enhancer consists of a storage holodisk, microfilament cord, headgear, and an optical sensor that is placed over the user's left eye. When used, an optical flash transmits a dictionary of physician skills and know-how into the user's memory, permanently improving the user's doctor skill. It weighs 8 pounds.


How would anyone improve from just putting something in that f****** Pip Boy anyway? Huh? You twerps are like f****** obsessed with that Pip Boy thingie. Pip Boy here and Pip Boy there... According to you guys, you can probably take a s*** with a Pip Boy too, huh? F******! I already told you: I'm not in the f****** mood to discuss something that is so f****** obvious! Now go play with your Pip Boys!

My god! Someone should run to the shop and get himself a pack of smokes or a joint! Either that or a stronger nicotine patch . Relax man, don't take it so personally, instruct the naive, the you can curse them all you want. Remember that patience is a virtue, you will need plenty of that if you really want to quit smoking!

 

[alec]

My god! Someone should run to the shop and get himself a pack of smokes or a joint! Either that or a stronger nicotine patch . Relax man, don't take it so personally, instruct the naive, the you can curse them all you want. Remember that patience is a virtue, you will need plenty of that if you really want to quit smoking!

THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT SMOKING, A******! DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT NOW THAT YOU AMATEURS KNOW I'M F****** RIGHT!

 

[c0ldst33ltrs4u]

THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT SMOKING, A******! DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT NOW THAT YOU AMATEURS KNOW I'M F****** RIGHT!

I wasn't trying to change the subject, and I never said that the enhancer thingy was an implant, it was more like a complex medical dictionary that was "taught" to the player like in "The Matrix", you know the little disks they upload into Neo's memory. You REALLY need to chill out man! 8)

 

[Silencer]

Nothing about attaching anything to the character's body there.

OH NO? You put the headgear and the optical sensor in your back door then, huh? You nitwit!

You PUT it on your head. Then, you TAKE IT OFF. You don't weld it onto your cranium, do you? Sheeesh. Did you mommy tell you your diaper was an implant? And were the ME or LE to pe put into the backside, theye wouldn''t be considered "HEADgears" would they?

You really need some tranquilizers, man....Or perhaps you've already taken too many?

* How is a set of Power Armour built?

Ask the Knights on the lvl 3 of the BOS

* Where do you fit in all the machinery that is supposed to control the whole thing?

You are supposed to insert the systolic motivator, which I beleive to fit that description, into a Powered Armour, on the lvl 3 of BOS

* How does the user interface with it??

Maybe the fucking armour senses the movements of the user and the pressure exerted by them , ever thought of that?

* How can you sneak in that thing?

Vewy cawefuwy.....

* Where do you stash all the stuff you loot, what you have Santa's bag in you pocket?

Where do you stash them inside that fashionable blue-yellow suit of yours? Must have hell of an abundance of pockets, innit?

 

[alec]

You PUT it on your head. Then, you TAKE IT OFF.

NO, Silencer. You're wrong. Read the description. It doesn't say that at all. You put it on your head and that's exactly where it stays. That's like saying: you put on your glasses to get a bonus to perception and than you take them off and the bonus to perception will stay... You are one retard, dude. A Polish retard, yes, but a retard nonetheless.

EDIT: IF you would take it off again, don't you think it would be logical that it would show back up in your inventory so that you can sell it or something?

 

[Silencer]

NO, Silencer. You're wrong. Read the description. It doesn't say that at all. You put it on your head and that's exactly where it stays. That's like saying: you put on your glasses to get a bonus to perception and than you take them off and the bonus to perception will stay...

EDIT: IF you would take it off again, don't you think it would be logical that it would show back up in your inventory so that you can sell it or something?

No dimwit, it wouldn't be logical. Glasses don't transmit anything to your brain, dude (in fact I suspect nothing does) What, you put the optical sensor over your left eve, then you put another optical sensor over your right eye, and what, you're fuck***g blindfolded for the rest of the game? No, you take the fucker off because the know-how is already in your head.

The enhancer's disappear from you inventory so that you cannot use them again. The same for books. Of course, you could have a myriad of objects like "Used Up Medical Enhancer", "Used Up Lingual Enhancer", "Already Read Big Book of Science" or 'Beer Bottle", but what would be the point?

 

[Role-Player]

EDIT: IF you would take it off again, don't you think it would be logical that it would show back up in your inventory so that you can sell it or something?

No. Why would you sell a depleted item? Who would buy a linguistic enhancer that had already outlived its usefulness?

Silencer is right on this one. Its a one-time use item. Having used items remain in your inventory would be useless. The linguistic enhancer operates like the magazines.

 

[alec]

No dimwit, it wouldn't be logical.

That, my dear friend, would actually be the most logical thing in the world.

Glasses don't transmit anything to your brain, dude (in fact I suspect nothing does).

Okay, "transmit" is an unlucky term. We're not talking about radiowaves here. Glasses do bundle lightwaves and patterns to your retina and then your eyes translate those to your brain so that you can interpret reality. Same thing your eyes do. Lenses. All your senses kind of 'transmit' information to your brain.

Oh wait, your brain is an empty tray, right? Nothing gets in there, does it? No transmission for the Silencer, eh? You living in a dream, eh?

What, you put the optical sensor over your left eve, then you put another optical sensor over your right eye, and what, you're fuck***g blindfolded for the rest of the game?

Who says these optical sensors aren't transparant, eh?

The enhancer's disappear from you inventory so that you cannot use them again. The same for books. Of course, you could have a myriad of objects like "Used Up Medical Enhancer", "Used Up Lingual Enhancer", "Already Read Big Book of Science" or 'Beer Bottle", but what would be the point?

You can't compare the enhancers with books and food and drinks. That would be dead cheap: you buy one book and you can read it like a zillion times and still get new information. Or you buy one beer and you can get drunk a million times for a measily dollar or something. It wouldn't make sense.

I really can't see what's so problematic about this point: you put the headgear of the enhancer on your head, connect it to the Pip Boy with the cord and it stays there. I still say it's like an implant and not like a book or a bottle of booze. It makes perfect sense to me. It's like that thing on that black guy from Star Trek Next Generation, or some of the Borgs have shit like that on their faces too. It's to improve their vision, their wisdom, their analytic possibilities...

Pffffffffffffff. It's hopeless, isn't it.

I'm very close to the point where I say: 'Oh, sure dude, you know what? You're right. You're always right. What you say makes perfect sense.'

While it doesn't, of course. I mean, we're talking about very advanced and highly technological stuff here. It just wouldn't make sense if a thing like that could only be used once and would then be like... used up. In fact, it wouldn't even make sense that a thing like that would still be found unused in a post-nuclear world. I'm sure Renesco would've used it himself then. You guys compare expensive electronics and optics with a pill or a beer or a magazine. That just blows my mind.