Interplay wants legal fees back from Bethesda

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Interplay has filed to regain about 10,000 USD from Bethesda on legal fees following the denial of the preliminary injunction, Duck and Cover reports.<blockquote>Pursuant to Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 54 and Rule 109.2 of the Local Rules of the United States Disctrict Court for the District of Maryland, Defendant/Counter-Claimant Interplay Entertainment Corp. ("Interplay"), hereby moves the Court for an award of the attorney fees and expenses that it incurred in successfully defending against the Motion for Preliminary Injunctions (the "Motion") filed against it by Plaintiff/Counter-Defendant Bethesda Softworks, LLC, ("Bethesda").</blockquote>Spotted on GameBanshee.
 
That seems a bit jumping the gun, since they haven't won the entire case. It's like arguing all those costs were incurred solely in defending against a preliminary injunction case, rather than the case as a whole. That seems unlikely.
 
I'm surprised it is so little money, would they really be allowed to have this particular issue brought up in court before more things are even figured out?
 
Brother None said:
That seems a bit jumping the gun, since they haven't won the entire case. It's like arguing all those costs were incurred solely in defending against a preliminary injunction case, rather than the case as a whole. That seems unlikely.


This is the filing for return of recoverable money spent deposing Bethesda COO James Leder which is 9538.38 out of about 100k estimated legal fees for trial proceedings.

The cost of deposing Bethesda COO James Leder was:


3901.32 ( LA To Maryland Transportation costs for Interplay CEO and In house attorney Nelson + Representative Attorney Gersh)

3526 (The Interplay Attorney deposition legal fees of James Leder )

1686.4 ( Online legal research)

225.76 (overnight mail to court and opposing counsel)

2.4 (Postage)

197.5 (Photocopy charges)


Interplay is arguing for the return of their money spent defending themselves against the Bethesda requested injunction which the judge denied and Interplay won, hence they are seeking return of costs incurred since Bethesda initiated this action and lost it in a court of law.

There is nothing out of the ordinary in the Filing.

I take you to court on a particular motion. You win. You ask for money spent defending yourself on this motion.

Pretty simple.

Proceeding to a court case and recovering money from winning the whole case is another matter.

This legal log jam could have them in court for years if they throw enough dirt at each other.

There is always an amicable solution that can be reached for both parties which allows for the release of a multi player Fallout earlier than would a court case delay cause.

It is in the best interest of both parties to strike a deal and release the Fallout MMO while the Fallout 3 Iron is still hot.

Too many fallout sequels and a certain amount of fans will get Fallout fatigue and then again other post Apocalypse games might come out that could dilute the MMO field spending dollar.

But I'm not sure either of these fearless company leaders have more than tunnel vision.

If they did, they would not be fighting like this.

If I were Bethesda and had a functional business brain other than putting lipstick on the pig and releasing the paint job as the next game/sequel

I would have taken advantage of IPLY's low price to stealthily build a minority stake(which does not need to be reported to the SEC until the 5% ownership threshold is reached) which then can proceed to a majority position later on based on new share issue and I can monetize this by having Interplay turn into a subsidiary of Bethesda.

And then Interplay proceeds to announce Fallout MMO to the gaming media and the buzz will turn Interplay back into a 100+ million $ market cap company overnight based on expected MMO cashflow alone( let alone the rest of their gaming IP like descent, Freespace, MDK, Earthworm Jim.....)

Bethesda can then sell some of their Interplay stake for 15-30X return which they can use to pay off their loan taken for buying out Carmack's company.

But these guys are not too bright. They'd rather get held hostage by Wall Street Bond Holders than use the Wall Street method to their advantage.

Any miss steps in execution and they could violate their debt covenants which would allow for a Bond shark to come in a buy the distressed bonds at a discount and take over Bethesda and any of their IP.

hmmmm ( Ponders what to do with the lipstick products of Bethesda.....)

Here's a tangible example of the idea:

earlier this year, a company called Diedrich Coffee (DDRX) that nobody wanted to buy at less than 1 million dollars ends up getting bid for right and left and bought out for more than 130 million all because certain would be buyers had no insight and no foresight to buy it 6 months earlier for peanuts.

Why all this finance talk on a gaming site you say?

Well, beside the obvious reasons, there is something overarching;

Capitalism destroyed gaming as we know it and turned most of gaming into a cookie cutter like profit at all cost business.

There is a way to do a reversal using capitalist means. And that is where the hope is for those with an inclination to join in the fray of the virtual reality world known as "The World of Planet Earth".

Otherwise, "Fallout 13: dwell here" will hit the virtual shelves of your download queue provided that the thin air backed monetary unit known as the dollar hasn't totally collapsed and the 30 million plus slave labor byproduct nation known as the rising Eastern Financial Empire of China then takes over which in that case you can announce the 13th iteration of the game via:

尘13:详谈

晚安,好运

Better start learning some Chinese just in case you'd rather be safe than sorry. :o
 
orionquest said:
This is the filing for return of recoverable money spent deposing Bethesda COO James Leder which is 9538.38 out of about 100k estimated legal fees for trial proceedings.

Yeah I know. And I guess it makes sense.

orionquest said:
This legal log jam could have them in court for years if they throw enough dirt at each other.

There is always an amicable solution that can be reached for both parties which allows for the release of a multi player Fallout earlier than would a court case delay cause.

It is in the best interest of both parties to strike a deal and release the Fallout MMO while the Fallout 3 Iron is still hot.

Some kind of settlement seems inevitable, but it also seems somewhat unlikely that this settlement would include Interplay holding on to the FOOL rights. Bethesda seems too dead-set on getting those, and is in perfect legal right to get them.
 
Brother None said:
Some kind of settlement seems inevitable, but it also seems somewhat unlikely that this settlement would include Interplay holding on to the FOOL rights. Bethesda seems too dead-set on getting those, and is in perfect legal right to get them.

Even if Bethesda seems to be in "perfect legal right" to get the rights to FOOL, there are many legal obstacles ahead of them due to their treatment of their contract partner Interplay.

Via their verifiable lying to the Judge, they are in contempt of court.

They have also actively worked towards damaging Interplay's financial condition to deprive them from their contract rights.

Any settlement between the parties would have to address Interplay's grievance against Bethesda. Bethesda has done a lot more damage to Interplay than Vice Versa.

The only way that damage is reversed is by the court system punishing Bethesda for their defaming of Interplay and the damage they have caused Interplay by placing all the obstacles in front of Interplay including the frivolous injunction court filing
that has been tossed out by the astute judge who saw through Bethesda's lies and attempted twisting of the arm of justice which they are still pursuing.

Zenimax's greed has already set in play their inevitable downfall and gaining full rights to FOOL actually accelerates that downfall but we can let them party in their drunken greed.

Can you imagine the utterly incompetent Bethesda Softworks releasing a semi bug free Massive Multiplayer world game?

They cannot even get their current crown jewel Fallout 3 to provide basic functionality(like actually working on some systems without a crash).

These guys are supposed to be able to maintain a functional massive gaming environment ala WOW?

With their outdated talent?

It will be a disaster.

They have grown very lazy and you can see it in their shoddy and unprofessional work.

Battle Cruiser 3000's Derek Smart would be proud to have someone to keep him company( The DOS memory crash box should have been a screen shot of level 2 in an early iteration of his game.)

Zenimax is going to pay for their and Bethesda's continued belligerence.

You can mark my words.
 
orionquest said:
Can you imagine the utterly incompetent Bethesda Softworks releasing a semi bug free Massive Multiplayer world game?

They cannot even get their current crown jewel Fallout 3 to provide basic functionality(like actually working on some systems without a crash).

These guys are supposed to be able to maintain a functional massive gaming environment ala WOW?

With their outdated talent?

It will be a disaster.
Oh god... the horror.
 
Well well, I can barely believe this. I had already buried Fallout, but now Interplay and Bethsoft are sueing each other over FOOL?

After killing Van Buren, giving us the atrocity that is POS and finally selling the IP to a company most Fallout-fans despised, I'm actually cheering for Herve. Not that I believe anything good will come out of this FOOL-project. I've just really, really grown to dislike Bethesda/Zenimax.

Interesting post, Orionquest. So you think this suit can take a while. And if I understand correctly, Bethesda is unable to make any Fallout-based MMO of their own until this is settled? That would be good.
 
Bethesda's Fallout has ushered in a new fan base, while that's all good, the bad part is is that they know nothing of what Fallout was. And the majority of Fallout fans today are fans because of Bethesda. PoS didn't have the same effect, didn't usher in new players who think that that is Fallout.

As fir the legal fees, I guess a company like Interplay can use all the money they can get.
 
Reconite said:
orionquest said:
Can you imagine the utterly incompetent Bethesda Softworks releasing a semi bug free Massive Multiplayer world game?

They cannot even get their current crown jewel Fallout 3 to provide basic functionality(like actually working on some systems without a crash).

These guys are supposed to be able to maintain a functional massive gaming environment ala WOW?

With their outdated talent?

It will be a disaster.
Oh god... the horror.
Does anyone seriously think here Interplay could manage to make a better Fallout MMORG (or something)? Dont forget it was Interplay that fucked around with the Fallout franchise in the first place.

Guys this is like one explained in another thread:

Bethesda or Interplay. Its either Hitler or Stalin. We are doomed anyway.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Bethesda or Interplay. Its either Hitler or Stalin. We are doomed anyway.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I'm feeling about this whole thing. I don't have any hopes for Interplay's MMO, mostly because I don't play MMOs, but I really wouldn't have too high of hopes if Interplay was doing a single player Fallout game. Interplay today is not the Interplay of Fallout1/2.
 
verevoof said:
Bethesda's Fallout has ushered in a new fan base, while that's all good, the bad part is is that they know nothing of what Fallout was.
Exactly. I know that no-one is forcing me to play Bethesda's Fallout, but whenever I hear people talking about it, it's like hearing Puff Daddy covering Beethoven. It's just painful.

I don't just love the old Fallout-games for being great RPG's, but also for their themes and the stories they tell. Bethesda has turned the setting into a blood spattered clobberfest with wacky sects and aliens.

I'd rather have the series fade into oblivion than constantly being reminded of this. So anything that stalls a Fallout MMO or prevents it from becoming reality is good in my book.
 
Bethesda deserves to have to deal with the toad, like an ex-husband, forever. The more I see this unfold, the more I laugh at it all.
 
You guys mean the newest installation to the TES series?
Y'know;

The Elder Scrolls V: Fallout
 
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