Haris said:
What the hell are you talking about now?
English please.
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What the hell are you talking about now?
English please.
Haris said:
Up until you started talking about luck, I was reading through your post thinking "Star Wars Galaxies"... and others here could probably name other online RPGs. My question is: how would a Star Wars Galaxies clone in a post-apocalyptic setting not be as lame as an Everquest clone in a post-apocalyptic setting?
Especially since they're done by the same company...
I never played Star Wars Galaxies. I took it from uo and actually that its that way in fallout 2. You find more stuff in random encounter boxes based on luck. The skills and SPECIALs really is not strong point to argue about here. In mmorpg you can script any stat to work as you want it. It can give you better loot, it can give you bigger chance to hit or add more damage or what ever you think of adding. You really just make a script that does something like makes you aim better the higher you have in it and than you can call it luck or superduperskill if you want.
FeelTheRads
Vault Senior Citizen
No, but you sure represent the kids. The idiotic kids who would play any shit that has the Fallout name painted over it. "OMG! It's called Fallout so it is Fallout. OMG!"
And what the fuck does it matter to you what the majority (as you put it) of the players like/play? It's kind of obvious that you just want to be with the "trend".
You mean by not changing my opinion on this just so i can be respected on these boards. If i like the idea of fallout mmorpg than i don't feel like keeping my mouth shut about it just so that i would come of as a cool hardcore fallout player. Thats as bad as badmouthing fallout 2 for its jokes as they don't fit in to PA universe. Anyway if interplay makes it so you can own house and shop, kill and loot players, tame deathclaws and centaurs and dogs, and crafting ability for all weapons and armors, and that you get your name put on item you craft, if you skill is high in crafting. Example if you called Neo in game than you can make "Minigun made by Neo" So it makes you famous if your crafter. Than the game is going to kick ass and no whining about it is going to make it lose players.
And please dont come with more coments on how this post is not going to gain me any respect on the forums. I had enough of people pointing out obvious stuff.
I'm sorry, but could somebody please explain to me why this thread is about Haris again? 
Haris said:
Spoken like someone who has no grasp of design nor Fallout.
What you are still blathering on about is still a poor UO mod changed to slightly flavor it towards Fallout's setting, style, and universe. It is much more than the characters and tech in the setting. In other words, you have the setting design grasp of a typical munchkin Monty Hauler.
Unfortunately, that doesn't really help with problems involving CHA having no use between players, nor many other aspects that make this discussion old hat. I have pointed this out before: We have been through more dicussions about these topics than your feeble understanding can comprehend, much less make an informed opinion about. For example, the map screen would have to be ditched because while it's in Fallout's style, it's not possible to have many people use a map screen at different times for different places.
No, I don't want to hear about your drivelous garbage that twists time and space. It will be as hackneyed and moronic as the rest of your wasted bandwidth.
No, if you're going to talk about the topic, then you can do so. If you're going to play anything with the name of Fallout attached to it, then you can be an idiot. If you're going to try to tell us that FOOL can be made into a shitty UO server, then we can believe that since you're involved. The topic was whether Herve could manage to create the pipe dream of a commercial-grade FOOL MMORPG. I'm sorry if nobody stated that specifically for your behalf, but we're not going to coddle idiots.
Maybe if you just spent a little less effort in attentnion whoring and a little more with figuring out what the topic is and learning background information, then we wouldn't be having this discussion.
To make it simple for your benefit; a MMORPG that has no relation to the spirit in which Fallout was designed has as little to do with Fallout's setting than lame easter eggs. Neither really has an important presence. Fallout is a good CRPG; that would not necessarily make it a good MMORPG since the conversion would remove many of the appealing elements (due to simple design observation).
Yes, what if they make some list of features? Tame deathclaws and centaurs? What the hell are you on, kid?
I think the point of Star Wars Galaxies, which has what you describe and a lot more, is little more than a trademarked piece of shit and is losing customers rapidly. It hardly "kicks ass", mainly because it IS little more than a list of things you can do like a Tamagotchi, but it has little real substance and while it might be amusing at first, it becomes annoying and a chore to deal with. Much like your presence in the Fallout community.
Then if you tire of us pointing out obvious stuff, then why do you keep posting incorrect lies and garbage that has little to do with the topic? You are not the only one tired of the obvious being pointed out.
Haris said:
Oh, I understood completely the point you were trying to make, although you seemed to have missed mine.
While it possible to make a profitable, commercially successful Fallout MMORPG, I do not believe that such a thing is possible with Herve at the helm of Interplay. There are so many factors that Herve is unaware and ignorant of, and his arrogance will not allow him to overcome that.
And, while your skills as a Fallout Modder, even with the UO server as your basis, could allow you to create some type of multiplayer Fallout project in a considerably short period of time (a remarkable achievement in its own right), such a thing is not the same what Herve hopes to achieve and is vastly different in both scope and objective.
I would advise strongly anybody who thinks a Fallout MMORPG will be Fallout 3 with MMROPG to abandon that concept right now. All the Fallout 3 assets now belong to Bethesda. The only resemblance to Fallout any type of Fallout MMORPG will have, regardless of who does it, is concepts, history, people, places and things. Nothing in the Fallout Family supports a competitive MMORPG. While there are lots of UO fans out there, the newest MMORPG are not using 2d, sprite based, avatars. It is a 3d world.
Yea thats one of things thats probably going to make me ignore interplays mmorpg. I hate 3d graphics in rpg games. They belong in fps. Anyway pointing out more stuff now will not lead to anything. Last thing i have to say is to those that think i am just showing off when i said i can make my own mmorpg mod of fallout. Well i am not, if i wrote this in uo moding forums nobody would say don't try to show off. Its not such advanced thing to do. I give you an example of a script so you can see how easy it is.
[ITEMDEF i_minigun]
DEFNAME=i_minigun<---this is for adding it in to game you type .add i_minigun and its come it to game
ID=i_minigun <---this tells server what pic of weapon it will use
NAME=Minigun <---this tells name of the weapon
SKILL=Big guns<---This tells server what skill you need
REQSTR=80<---you wont be able to use it if you str isn't 80
TWOHANDS=Y<---you must use it with both hands
WEIGHT=50<---how much it weights
SKILLMAKE=100.0 Gun smithing <--how much gun smithing skill you need to make it
RESOURCES=200 iron bars, 1 minigun blueprint <---what you need to make it
DAM=40,80<---this is minimum and maximum damage every burst will do
ON=@Create
HITPOINTS={431 660} <---every burst take 1-2 hp away, when you make it it gets random hitpoints from 431-660 so when it reaches 0 it breaks
See any person that can read and write can make his own custom weapons with this engine. So really when i say i could make this is not me showing off my cool scripting skills. People with no scripting ability are able to run their own servers in less than a week.
[ITEMDEF i_minigun]
DEFNAME=i_minigun<---this is for adding it in to game you type .add i_minigun and its come it to game
ID=i_minigun <---this tells server what pic of weapon it will use
NAME=Minigun <---this tells name of the weapon
SKILL=Big guns<---This tells server what skill you need
REQSTR=80<---you wont be able to use it if you str isn't 80
TWOHANDS=Y<---you must use it with both hands
WEIGHT=50<---how much it weights
SKILLMAKE=100.0 Gun smithing <--how much gun smithing skill you need to make it
RESOURCES=200 iron bars, 1 minigun blueprint <---what you need to make it
DAM=40,80<---this is minimum and maximum damage every burst will do
ON=@Create
HITPOINTS={431 660} <---every burst take 1-2 hp away, when you make it it gets random hitpoints from 431-660 so when it reaches 0 it breaks
See any person that can read and write can make his own custom weapons with this engine. So really when i say i could make this is not me showing off my cool scripting skills. People with no scripting ability are able to run their own servers in less than a week.
Corith said:
Corith, I think it is safe to say Haris is far too mentally disturbed/challenged in order to understand what you are trying to get through his dense skull.
Instead, the total attention-whore posts something irrelevant and tries to make people feel impressed. Unfortunately for him, most of us have more than a passing knowledge of the gaming industry, so we're not the beloved UO sheep he's used to. I could make Ultima characters with Fallout's character system, NPCs, items, etc., yet that doesn't make it an Ultima game. In fact, UO and Ultima didn't even share the same character system, yet you're still trying to make a point about something but you're far too busy acting up for the attention it gains you elsewhere. We are not amused. In other words, nobody in Fallout has an 80 strength. You can't even be bothered to work the system decently enough.
"Yah, I r maeking a D&d gmae! You knead 900 Stregnth to use a polearm!!OloLOLOlollipopLOLOL!!" That is the intelligence level you present yourself as.
Get a clue sometime, kid. About the only people you're fooling and probably still welcome around are those who have had the misfortune to work with you and the stupidity for not having removed you from the gene pool much earlier. It is one thing to mod UO server emulators. It is another to pretend to be a Fallout modder and fail miserably because you essentially know nothing about it other than your pathetic mental masturbations involving you, UO, and possible pieces of Fallout's setting in some sordid pipe dream.
In case you didn't understand it the first ten times it was explained to you: You + UO = DO NOT BELONG IN THIS TOPIC. You are irrelevant, you both do not belong here. I have warned you enough, any more you can go lick wounds with some of the FOT clannies, who coincidentally shared the same immature attention-whoring traits as yourself.
Rosh you are the one that does not realise that your just a funny insane admin on nma that people come to work up so they can have a laugh at your attempts to flame and sound intelligent by taking several parts of sentences taken totaly out of context and than saying that person lied not ever pointing out what the lie actually was. Still you have hard time to understand what example means. You take every word literally wich is first sign of retardation, if someone writes example of script it doesn't mean thats how it is. And by most of your posts and juvenile way to change peoples pics you cant possibly be older than 17 and still you keep calling people kids.
The sad part is that only reason why you are bitter is cause you stoped playing fallout 5 years ago and you puke on the thought of playing it but only thing you succeeded in life with is becoming an admin. Than you think your strongest threat is you will never become admin on nma like if it was only forum in the world and nobody was able to just put up another one.
And honestly dude i have been reading your posts for last 15 days, you really should learn new insults and new sentences. It really feels like every post you make you just cut and paste your one liners, and they aren't many. You sound like a broken record.
Sad thing is that your to stupid for any of this to go in to your head, you will just quote all my words in next post and than cut and paste crap in between it.
The sad part is that only reason why you are bitter is cause you stoped playing fallout 5 years ago and you puke on the thought of playing it but only thing you succeeded in life with is becoming an admin. Than you think your strongest threat is you will never become admin on nma like if it was only forum in the world and nobody was able to just put up another one.
And honestly dude i have been reading your posts for last 15 days, you really should learn new insults and new sentences. It really feels like every post you make you just cut and paste your one liners, and they aren't many. You sound like a broken record.
Sad thing is that your to stupid for any of this to go in to your head, you will just quote all my words in next post and than cut and paste crap in between it.
Haris said:
I must strongly disagree on the above statements. 3d graphics allow for a richness in detail that could never have been imagined in the days of 2d.
I can not image anybody preferring those clunky graphics, in any game, much less claiming they belong to any specific genre, but . . .well . . to each their own.
However, if I were you, I would get over this disdain for rpg games with 3d graphics. No company is going to waste time creating sprites any more. It is too hard to create any type of camera movement, and with such programs as Maya and 3d studio, its easier to hire real artists instead of forcing left-brain dominate programmers to create sprites.
FeelTheRads
Vault Senior Citizen
How fucking stupid are you? Would it matter if he stopped playing Fallout five years ago when he certainly knows what Fallout is about? NO, you moron, it's not just a post nuclear game, can you grasp that?
Putting a few elements from the Fallout universe in a MMORPG while fucking up the rest because "they just don't fit" won't make that game a Fallout game. It's as simple as that.
Thats the whole point, its not fallout, its fallout mmorpg and they cant be the same. Thats why saying its going to be crap without ever testing it is stupid. Its aimed at totaly different kind of players. Same company can make different products with same trademark. They don't need to have any similar functions but to attract regular fallout fans it can still have some.
Briosafreak
Lived Through the Heat Death
Haris said:
Ban please, for the greater good. Sorry Haris but you should put your act together before using that internet thing.
Haris said:
No, the original point here, is that a Fallout MMORPG IS very possible, but Herve lacks the will and the knowledge to achieve it.
If he is successful in finding a means to accomplish this task, it will not be a junked up version of a stolen UO server with Fallout graphics slapped together in 2 months deep in the recesses of somebody's basement and run on an EarthLink account. Then again with Herve, you can never know.
I am not the one that started talking about mmorpg. It was on the news. Hence everyone else was posting their opinions and thoughts about it so did i. It just seems on these forums your opinions must match every other users opinions or they aren't welcome. And i pretty much don't care about that. Flaming is part of forums that you pretty much count on when you start posting.
Briosafreak at least make it less obvious when your kissing admins ass. My post contains 10 times less insults than anything Rosh ever posted. And i really tried not to flame him back, but he was just asking for it.
i nominate thee for the witless protection program, mr Haris.
please leave this forum in an orderly fashion & dont let the door hit you in the ass...
please leave this forum in an orderly fashion & dont let the door hit you in the ass...