Iraq stuff
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Max Demian
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Aegis wrote:
I kinda like you Aegis. You sure do know how to make a person laugh. Not that I don't get my share of laughter each day without you, but more is never too much. Especially so since in real life I must refrain my self from laughing when prompted by such, how should I call them – humorous lapses of judgment.
Maybe, if you give it some time, things will get better for you and you'll learn the wonderful art of sarcasm - properly.
Cheers mate.
I kinda like you Aegis. You sure do know how to make a person laugh. Not that I don't get my share of laughter each day without you, but more is never too much. Especially so since in real life I must refrain my self from laughing when prompted by such, how should I call them – humorous lapses of judgment.
Maybe, if you give it some time, things will get better for you and you'll learn the wonderful art of sarcasm - properly.
Cheers mate.
Max Demian
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Thanks for the tip pal. Appreciate it.
Malkavian said:
At the same time Americans suck at peacekeeping, as great as you may be at warfare, peacekeeping is different game. The American soldiers in Iraq so far have not grown a great reputation of respecting the Islamic belief or of caring much about lives they're supposed to protect. In fact, it's dangerously unclear what your mission there is anyway...
Iraq needs UN support, it needs countries closer to Iraq to land troops there and needs support from countries that are more experienced at peacekeeping.
aegis said:
Firstly, as I already pointed out, you were adressing Big T, who didn't even post anything about the war/video in this thread. Your remarks should've been pointed towards welsh.
Secondly, I doubt it's very easy to "fabricate" a video like that, I mean, seriously. If you can't tell that that's real, you need to get your eyes and ears checked. Why would someone fabricate that, anyway? So they could put it on Ebaum's World? Hah.
I saw this video months ago... It's kind of amusing in a shocking way but also bad as well. Would someone mind quoting the part of the Geneva Convention that they think was violated? I'm not saying it was a good idea, just curious.
From what I recall of where I originally got the video from (a military aviation video site I think), the guys wandering around were conducting some sort of arms deal and this was a pre-emptive strike... Of course, someone could have just tagged that caption on there.
I also have a video taken from an AC-130 gunship flying around destroying vehicles and people who were using a mosque as a weapons dump/meeting place/whatever but I don't recall where I got it from. - Colt
From what I recall of where I originally got the video from (a military aviation video site I think), the guys wandering around were conducting some sort of arms deal and this was a pre-emptive strike... Of course, someone could have just tagged that caption on there.
I also have a video taken from an AC-130 gunship flying around destroying vehicles and people who were using a mosque as a weapons dump/meeting place/whatever but I don't recall where I got it from. - Colt
welsh
Junkmaster
You guys have been warned once already by Kharn. Enough. Malk, don't start on this board. It's not the Order. Ratty and Max, leave Aegis alone.
Aegis- you are rapidly becoming everyone's favorite punching bag. You might want to think about why.
But enough of that.
Back on topic.
geneva conventions- let's see
- shooting civilians (do you see guns on those fellows?). Fact is we don't know why those guys were out there. But shoot first and ask questions later should not be policy.
- Killing the wounded. Even if the other two were acceptable targets, once a man is wounded and no longer a combatant, killing him if it's not in self-defense is murder.
Aegis- you are rapidly becoming everyone's favorite punching bag. You might want to think about why.
But enough of that.
Back on topic.
geneva conventions- let's see
- shooting civilians (do you see guns on those fellows?). Fact is we don't know why those guys were out there. But shoot first and ask questions later should not be policy.
- Killing the wounded. Even if the other two were acceptable targets, once a man is wounded and no longer a combatant, killing him if it's not in self-defense is murder.
welsh said:
Oy, Malk didn't do nuthin'. Though he should also leave Aegis alone.
Back on topic, this article is interesting, from the Guardian:
Note how the Americans and partners have killed a lot more civilians than insurgents, on the long run, even though it's equalling out now.
I know I'm going to be called myopic again, but if this is a justified reaction to less than 3000 dead civilians from the United States, how are the Iraqis supposed to react to more than 9000 civilians killed at US hands?
I don't even want to contemplate the actual numbers being up to 100,000.[/quote]
Corpse
Mildly Dipped
welsh said:
I have found that footage at various sources, I did find a longer version on a torrent where you actually see those guys carrying weapons here.
Colt said:
Here is a torrent of that AC-130 footage from militaryvideos.net.
Whoa, there, boys. Either take it to pm's or don't start, I don't want to see a single post on this from either of you. Private messaging, 's what it's there for
ok, dont anyone listen if they dont want to hear me-
in my opinion that video is bullshit, i saw it on the news in my country a few monthes ago. you can take a home camera place some nice fireworks where the trucks were , just like those you see in a soccer game where the crowd gets violent. the fact is you dont see any parts of the trucks blowing, just some nice smoke.
put the mark of the chopper thing is just adding a still picture. and recording some nice sountrack with lots of "rogers". the people really didnt die they were just actors, could be same one who talked in the video even, the barrles of the machine gun could be planted easy enough too.
pretty easy.
and i think the most convincing part, is how at all that video could be stolen for the US army? i mean someone would really have to knowe its way around thier bases in order to find such tape. i think the motives for spreading this video are clear-just to show the US army in a bad angle and to increase hate toward the "bulliness" of america's actions.
in my opinion that video is bullshit, i saw it on the news in my country a few monthes ago. you can take a home camera place some nice fireworks where the trucks were , just like those you see in a soccer game where the crowd gets violent. the fact is you dont see any parts of the trucks blowing, just some nice smoke.
put the mark of the chopper thing is just adding a still picture. and recording some nice sountrack with lots of "rogers". the people really didnt die they were just actors, could be same one who talked in the video even, the barrles of the machine gun could be planted easy enough too.
pretty easy.
and i think the most convincing part, is how at all that video could be stolen for the US army? i mean someone would really have to knowe its way around thier bases in order to find such tape. i think the motives for spreading this video are clear-just to show the US army in a bad angle and to increase hate toward the "bulliness" of america's actions.
YEah because if it was fake the us army would not go out and call it a fake. Fact is that this has been on the internett for months and the us army has never called it a fake. Wonder why?
If this was a fake they would be sending lawsuits in any direction and there would at least be an article where they call it a fake, but i dare you to find one.
If this was a fake they would be sending lawsuits in any direction and there would at least be an article where they call it a fake, but i dare you to find one.