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Arin Matthews
Guest
You know that ghost named Anna Winslow you can give that amulet to? Is she canon?
naossano
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
It's up to you to choose it this happen in your head or if it's fit with the rest of the universe.
Personnally, i am ok with it, but i doubt this will be taken into account in the rest of the continuity. So as the special encounters.
Personnally, i am ok with it, but i doubt this will be taken into account in the rest of the continuity. So as the special encounters.
It always felt out of place for me. Then again, many things in Fallout 2 did.
BigBoss
Your Local Scrub
Thank you! Fallout 1 is always preferred over Fallout 2 to me. Its way more mature, and as Rosh has stated many times, it doesn't shove so many fucking 50's-60's related easter eggs down your throat (that are insanely easy to find and catch nonetheless) to where it just starts to get... ridiculous. They should have focused on more of a 50's retro-post apocalyptic environment more like of Fallout 1 instead of just adding a million easter eggs and expecting that to do the trick.
Fallout 1>Fallout 2 in spades.
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Oppen
FIXT n°1 fan
Maybe, but it was sci-fi psychics (caused by the FEV, mostly), which fits a bit better in the setting. Also, why would it be more realistic than vampires? At least the latter had an explanation as to why they were there. Half assed, and a stupid addition in itself, but existent.
I prefer to believe the PC is right if he tells her she is just a crazy woman with a stealth boy, as ghosts, IMO, don't fit in the Fallout universe. Otherwise, I'd just take it as an easter egg, i.e. non-canon.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
Wasn't that just a crazy woman with a stealthboy? You can even gun her down.
It's up for debate. She does disappear into thin air and leave behind a bag of Anna Winslow's bones, but who's to say? Jet's a helluva drug.
I personally try to take the same thematic razor to the Interplay-Era games as I use on the Beth-Era ones: if something's stupid or doesn't fit the world, and it isn't tied directly in to any endgame slides or anything carried into the sequels, it doesn't matter whether or not it's canon and you're free to ignore it as you see fit. The original devs themselves did it more than once (or something close to it, via ramshackle quasi-official retcons like "FEV only makes SOME ghouls" or "Hey, how about those wacky pranksters doctoring that GNN holotape at the Sierra Army Depot, eh?"
Anna Winslow isn't any more or less real than Keeng Ra'at or Chuck Stodgers, which is to say, they'll likely never venture anywhere near that territory again except via wink-and-nod.
I personally try to take the same thematic razor to the Interplay-Era games as I use on the Beth-Era ones: if something's stupid or doesn't fit the world, and it isn't tied directly in to any endgame slides or anything carried into the sequels, it doesn't matter whether or not it's canon and you're free to ignore it as you see fit. The original devs themselves did it more than once (or something close to it, via ramshackle quasi-official retcons like "FEV only makes SOME ghouls" or "Hey, how about those wacky pranksters doctoring that GNN holotape at the Sierra Army Depot, eh?"
Anna Winslow isn't any more or less real than Keeng Ra'at or Chuck Stodgers, which is to say, they'll likely never venture anywhere near that territory again except via wink-and-nod.
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Oppen
FIXT n°1 fan
Maybe. There wasn't anything pointing to that aside from the PC comment about it and the fact you can kill her, but the latter may just be because there are no immortal characters in Fallout 1 and 2, which makes me think that's an engine limitation on that regard. I don't know because I never tried to kill her, but does she have an insanely high amount of HP? If that's so, I think the intention was to make you unable to kill her, pointing to the devs wanting her to be a ghost.
EDIT: A brief search in the wiki tells me her HP is normal, but she is pretty much immune to any attacks aside from plasma. Ghostbusters!
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BigBoss
Your Local Scrub
I don't think she was just a "crazy woman with a stealth boy". I found this over at the Nuka-Pedia.
{101}{}{The name on the gravestone reads: "Anna Winslow."}
{200}{}{You put Anna's Bones to rest.}
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/DiAnnGrv.msg
{101}{}{The name on the gravestone reads: "Anna Winslow."}
{200}{}{You put Anna's Bones to rest.}
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/DiAnnGrv.msg
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Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
Uhmmm..... so what does that prove? A woman that carries around some bones she dug up qualifies as a Crazy person. They don't have to be ghosts, specially because Ghosts don't tend to carry their bones around, they are ghosts.
I think it's just another half-hearted attempt by Arin to point out flaws of the first games like the last 10 threads he's started on this forum. Call me a cynic.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
And they all consist of a single sentence. Isn't there a forum rule against that?
Oppen
FIXT n°1 fan
No idea. What's funny is that this was already discussed, it's not like people here ignore this things and are just seeing the older games with rose-tinted glasses. As a matter of fact, when I mentioned the "crazy woman" line, I learned about it in the previous discussion of the subject, I didn't pay enough attention when I actually played that part (it was soon after my first playthrough).
I think the accepted vernacular round these parts is rose tinted mirror shades.
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Arin Matthews
Guest
No, when you are Arin Matthews you are cool thus meaning you don't need more than one sentence or the edit button.
Don't use my name in vain, mutant!
Also, seeing as the Chosen One comes from a tribe with hokey-dokey grass/drugsmoking crazy looney-popes (in my opinion), I wouldn't be one bit surprised if he saw ghosts/spirits now and then. Those with some spiritual power of sorts can sense ghosts or other spirits (which is noted in the RP when you talk to the shaman of Umbra Tribe), while the "civilized" people tend to not see/notice such themselves (or try to make a profit by stories of haunted houses). As for her being killable/loony woman with Stealth Boy, I can't say I ever did try to put her to rest other than the regular way from doing her quests, so I wouldn't know.
Also, seeing as the Chosen One comes from a tribe with hokey-dokey grass/drugsmoking crazy looney-popes (in my opinion), I wouldn't be one bit surprised if he saw ghosts/spirits now and then. Those with some spiritual power of sorts can sense ghosts or other spirits (which is noted in the RP when you talk to the shaman of Umbra Tribe), while the "civilized" people tend to not see/notice such themselves (or try to make a profit by stories of haunted houses). As for her being killable/loony woman with Stealth Boy, I can't say I ever did try to put her to rest other than the regular way from doing her quests, so I wouldn't know.
I merely consider her a quick way of scoring some xp. I wonder if that is very canon of me :I
BigBoss
Your Local Scrub
So then why does the quest require you bury the bones in a grave named "Anna Winslow"?
Oppen
FIXT n°1 fan
Again, that only proves the real Anna Winslow is dead. I think that what is being suggested is that, yes, Anna Winslow is dead, yes, the "ghost" gives you her bones, but NO, the "ghost" is not the real Anna Winslow, but a random, crazy woman.
EDIT: Maybe even not a crazy woman, but someone trying to take advantage of goodie two shoes, supersticious people, and wanting the locket to sell or because it looks good.
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