allll righty then
Like that rocket launcher at the guy in the wheelcair, you know. Don't pretend that the Israeli's are free from all things evil on this planet, that's just plain ignorant.
That said, what the hell is wrong with you? Why do you think it's a problem if, in 50-100 years, there will be more Palestinians than Israelis? For god's sake, man, what the hell does it matter if you've learned to co-exist peacefully? Try working towards that..
you're kidding about the wheel chair guy right? do you know who that was? that's sheih yasin, the sender of endless suicide bombers, and the responsible for HUNDREDS of sevillians murdered. he was the leader of the hizballa, check out that organisation, and what it represents. this man was alive WAY much more time than he was supposed to, and thank god he's dead. if you think he's ANY better than bin laden or sadam husain, you're wrong.
about the population in 50-100 years, i was reffering to what 'november' said when he said that we'll kill them all if this status will continue.
All the Israelis have to claim is an old book stating it's their home grounds, while the Palestinians have been living there for a long time. I don't agree that you have no right to live there, but the Palestinians have as much a right as you do.
As well as that, where do you come off from saying that he doesn't know his history? You could've also come up with, you know, FACTS to counter what he just said. Because you haven't done that, have you?
sure, why don't we talk about the facts?
it all starts about 150 years ago, when the first jews started moving to israel. grounds were BOUGHT from native residents, which after a while understood they made a mistake selling the grounds, when they thought those grounds were useless, but the jewish farmers managed to furtilize them... that's where all the problems started, with a lot of bla bla bla(the whole story is quite long) which concludes in a problem of 2 sides on one territory(which included ISRAEL AND THE WHOLE OF JORDAN!!!). in about the 1930's jordan got it's independence, and deported a whole lot of "palestinians" to the israeli grounds.(the deportation was QUITE violant... that's right...) those palestinians asked for support and stuff from other countries, and because they were the majority at the time, they had an advantage with the british mandat. a bit later, the british mandat decided that he'll give 18 percent of israel(without jordan that is) to the jews, and the rest for the arabs... that was decided in the vaadat pil. the jewish population wasn't too pleased about it, but check this out! the arabs declined that offer too! (yeah, you're reading right). after that the fights between the 2 collonies were quite harsh, and after the hollocoust it was decided that the jews deserve a country, which was later expanded to become about twice as big(right now) after all the wars... they did mistakes, they paid for them. the mistakes were selling the lands and then whine about it. it all began from that.
if you still feel that the palestinians are the ones who are right, there's also the USA example... don't you feel that the native americans deserve the land? the world isn't too fair...
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it is a proven fact that we go after wanted murderes only.
No, it isn't. It can't be a proven fact, because it absolutely impossible to prove. What is possible to prove is that you have gone on so-called retaliation missions. And that civilians DO get killed in those missions.
Does this make you any worse than the Palestinians? Hell no. But this also doesn't mean you're free from any guilt.
Also note that a bunch of bomber-pilots went on strike a while back to protest against the missions they were sent on. Does that sound like "we're doing nothing wrong" to you?
you didn't read what was later said... innocent people also get killed, just like i said. you ignored it.
But what can a government do when its citizens don't listen? The suicide bombers are not completely controllable like the Israeli army.
Basically, you're saying that it's okay to stop peace talks because a bunch of loonies keep on bombing. How's that for giving in to terrorism.
WRONG.
proven that arafat gave green light many times to terrorist acts. the thing is, at the time, when there was seice fire, and the bombings continued, and when it became on a daily basis, and 20 people were killed every day(you DON'T KNOW how that's like), the goverment had to stop it... stoping the curfues and opening the borders was part of the agreement for siece fire... we couldn't continue letting the borders being open, so we had to stop the bombing---->couses the end of talks. it's not as simple as you think... right now arafat is not rellevent. there's noone to talk to, couse like you said yourself, they can't hold their terrorists, who do what they want. and the terrorists are who we are fighting...
Ugh. I've recently seen a documentary about the Israeli border guards here. I was horrified, I heard soldiers frequently say things like "Jews are the best", talk about racial prejudice, and I saw the palestinians get searched and humiliated over and over again. Is this necessary? No, it isn't. Should you be able to protect yourself? Yes. But for God's sake, at least TRY to remain friendly with the Palestinians. If you want the killing to stop, killing THEM won't help one bit.
ohhhhhh... how cute of you... try to remain friendly with them... in those documentries you watched, did they show the 5 and 10 year olds with the explosives belts? did they show the women who wore those explosives? did they show the RPG KIDS 50 years ago(kids who actually fired rpgs at tanks hoping not to be get killed couse they are kids and can't be harmed). did they show the terrorists on the streets who use kids as human shields? did they show the 10 year old girl who approached a restricted area with a bag, to be a diversion for terrorists?
yeah, the checks are necessary! and how easy it is to "remain friendly with them"... life is so simple, isn't it?
