John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
I had no idea I made you writeWaterGirl said:
Which you knew would make me angry.
And I had no idea I made Ozrat post two topics on the evils of Christanity IN A ROW! THANKS WATERGIRL!
Jack Chick & Christianity
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Venerable Relic of the Wastes
And I had no idea I made Ozrat post two topics on the evils of Christanity IN A ROW! THANKS WATERGIRL!
Wooz69 said:I think the fact you got caught in your own script (you wrote it IIRC) is as hilarious as the Jack Chick logic analysis
I thought the irony would be appreciated, thank you.
As for Chick and Creationists, they should be shot. Or just kept around so we can kill when aliens come by with a nicely annotated history that goes for a few more thousand years than our own.
However, the fundies would likely claim that the aliens were made by God, but with their history pre-made by Him as well.
CCR, the comments I've seen Ozrat and WaterGirl make here have been about fundies like Chick, not Christianity in general. I don't know why you felt like eating a retard sandwich for lunch, but I'd suggest you don't go for a second helping.
CC said:
Seriously CC, if you think that anyone with a resoning that goes beyond a 2-year old actually believes that most christians are snakehandlers or people like the Chick dude you really really need to think again, and that is coming from an agnostic/atheist (me). Just chill and ignore it.
King of Creation
Vault Fossil
The more I read this asshole's website, the angrier I get. Jack Chick is possibly the most ignorant jerkoff that I have ever heard of in my life. Words cannot describe how angry I am right now.
BAH
BAH
ConstinpatedCraprunner said:
I had no idea I made you read. It's easy to open up a thread and say to yourself, "gee, this is gonna end up pissing me off". When that happens, just close the thread. It's that simple. It's not like you ever look to see anything other than what you want to see anyway, so just pretend that it doesn't exist and you will return to your happy place where everybody believes in God.
WaterGirl said:
That's funny, because I thought even the thread's title could give an indication of the topic. That's generally the purpose of the title in the first place. After CCR starting a thread devoted to saying he will not involve himself anymore in religious debates, the thread title should have been more than obvious.
A fundie and his denigratory brainwashing material. The more I think about the comics and other Chick crap, the more it's obvious that Chick is doing it for the other fundies and for those other fundies to think their own brand of denigration is perfectly fine, not to really convert anyone.
It does look by now that CCR was intentionally starting this mess again. CCR, you've earned it.
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
I don't get what I started, nor do I understand my new avatar or name, though both are fairly funny, and I probably deserve it for other crimes.....just not this one.
This thing's sole purpose was to offend me. If it is'nt, I don't know what is. She is baiscally insinuating that I don't understand nor want to know that some people don't belive in God. I understand it, I appreciate it.
Thing is Roshambo, he started another topic just like this, and that thing's sole purpose was, in the beggining at least, to flamebait me. Thus I assumed that this, his new topic, with almost the exact same initial content, is the same.
Did I overreact? Probably, I did. But I've had a bad day, and I don't really think it's fair that this topic comes up right after (indeed, this is Ozrat's second topic on a row about weirder Christian groups) I ask for a break from religious topics.
I made an accusation towards Ozrat here
But, despite the childish use of all caps, I did not put down another religion, nor really Ozrat himself. While Water Girl remarked with
Which is a clear insult to my faith.
So just how exactly am I being an ass right now, besdies overeacting to Ozrat's tendancy to post stuff on bible thumping Christanity, and his disregard of my attempt to stay away from religious topics, and my asking for a temporary end to them?
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Okay, so two parts of the statement, and one I am supposed to know is a opinon, one is supposed to be a fact (which is fairly misleading, anyway, as he combined quite a few beliefs). Yeah, I'd get that with my spiffy new superhuman abilities to tell what someone is thinking.
Now, by that, what you mean to say was
Now this is what you said
Now, it is abundantly clear that this can be interperated as an insult. Infact, it was an insult, as the word opinon is no where insight.
Also, let us not forget
which is undoutably an insult.
Now, by my counting, that is two religious insults that are completely unprovoked. Damn, WaterGirl is making me look like a Unitarian!
And I stopped that. And I have yet to do it sense I pledged to stop. Heck, look at this topic. Do you see one line from me that could be construed as an insult to any faith, or lack thereof?
Paladin Solo
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Hey Ozrat, you give out the Chick site without giving any credit to the guy who first used it on NMA. Shame on you mister.
I think I used that site to disprove evolution...muwhahahaha....
I think I used that site to disprove evolution...muwhahahaha....
ConstinpatedCraprunner said:
Simply because it has not happened in this thread, does not mean that it has not happened.
I would simply like you to remember yuor own previous attacks on peoples faith, and next time someone attacks your's, take it with a grain of salt.
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Actually, last time I "attacked a person's faith", I was threatend with banishment. Watergirl's case is no diffirent from mine.Elissar said:
*shrugs* either way... I'm just tired off all the bashing of religion from all sides... If CCR and all the rest of the people that have found religion are happy with it... fine.. good for them... they can just be happy and keep their damn mouths shut about it..
Nobody should have to open a half-dozen diffrent threads thinking that their going to see religion debated maturely and rationally only to find out the the thread devolved in a matter of 8 or nine posts (being VERY generous here) into nothing more than a damned flame-fest.
Every once in a while it's cool to see one or two people go at in in a religious argument.. But seriously people... It's long since stoped being cute or funny.. It's just damned annoying now.
Edit: Wasnt really meaning to point out CCR as the only one here, their are several of you out there, and you all know damn well who you are.
Nobody should have to open a half-dozen diffrent threads thinking that their going to see religion debated maturely and rationally only to find out the the thread devolved in a matter of 8 or nine posts (being VERY generous here) into nothing more than a damned flame-fest.
Every once in a while it's cool to see one or two people go at in in a religious argument.. But seriously people... It's long since stoped being cute or funny.. It's just damned annoying now.
Edit: Wasnt really meaning to point out CCR as the only one here, their are several of you out there, and you all know damn well who you are.
CCR:
Saying there is no God is just the same as saying there is a God. Both are considered opinion by the same merit. Of course, fundies get their panties in a twist when you say "there is no God" like some kind of criminal, but that doesn't stop fundies from trying to ram that there is a God down someone else's throat, and good luck to anyone who expresses a view that denies theirs.
What is funny is that I don't see anything resembling flamebait in the thread start. Nothing whatsoever. That is unless your mind is simple and stuck on "Christianity" only, as most fanatical fundies are. Read the whole topic title, in context this time. No, wait, you did get the context, but decided to flake the hell out when Ozrat posted a few more of Chick's "work". You were doing fine and showed a grasp of the topic, but when Ozrat posted the more laughable topics of Chick's work, you flaked.
About the only people who might be offended are fundies, and frankly when their message is denigratory to begin with, it's open season on them. Quite frankly, I don't see any reason why someone who was apparently in agreement with the original assessment of Chick to really think that Ozrat was making any blanket statements about Christianity, nor about you. In fact, it looks like he was replying to Baboon and posting more pieces of Chick's work...just like the original post, NOT DIRECTED AT YOU. The posting times and time to do the URL links and IMG links supports this as well.
Bottom line, you're the source of the problem in this case, CCR. Your victim complex, as we've known it from DAC and other places, is frankly quite pathetic. You do nothing but portray yourself as a sad little child desperate for attention. Dicing semantics doesn't work on me, boy, so you can drop that routine. You might want to try that on some who are a bit naive in your methods of attention-whoring, it's not going to work here.
I think a good many of you forget the most important part of WaterGirl's first post in this thread, instead isolating and attacking the part that seems inciteful. Read it in context this time, the important part is boldfaced:
I would like to note again that this reply was done AFTER CCR flaked out and started crying about the imaginary lions. Hell, neither Ozrat nor WaterGirl deserved the following comment, as they didn't make ANY comments about Christianity as a whole in their posts, but instead the commentary was about a fundie named Jack Chick and the outlandish bullshit the fellow comes up with.
Up until that point, the conversation wasn't really about Christianity, just about the way one insane cartoonist draws it.
Here, I'll even quote you, too.
Hey, I detect a lie. By the same merit I could also state that without proof and with verifiable methods, the world is over 6k years (especially when you take into account Cro-Magnum and the Neaderthals), which would make Christianity the one full of shit. But then again, you'd have to follow your own words and by your own argument, you've lost any care of people reading your hypocritical dreck. Do you ever take that into account for what you do? Hell no. You never have and by this display, likely never will.
Survey says: You were the one who tried to incite things (without any obvious discussion basis or background), and when they refused to take the bait, you went for a more direct path. One thread was indeed baiting at you, and I'm surprised it didn't come to my attention earlier (though, given your past record, I did have to chuckle at it), but in this case there's really no baiting unless you really stretch for it and you did.
You had your chance, CCR, and you fucked it up again. I don't make warnings lightly. If you can't learn how to refrain from touching topics that are such a problem for you, then I guess we'll have to do it for you. One week, banned.
PS: No, I was the one who originally posted about his site, but that's when we used WebBBS.
Saying there is no God is just the same as saying there is a God. Both are considered opinion by the same merit. Of course, fundies get their panties in a twist when you say "there is no God" like some kind of criminal, but that doesn't stop fundies from trying to ram that there is a God down someone else's throat, and good luck to anyone who expresses a view that denies theirs.
What is funny is that I don't see anything resembling flamebait in the thread start. Nothing whatsoever. That is unless your mind is simple and stuck on "Christianity" only, as most fanatical fundies are. Read the whole topic title, in context this time. No, wait, you did get the context, but decided to flake the hell out when Ozrat posted a few more of Chick's "work". You were doing fine and showed a grasp of the topic, but when Ozrat posted the more laughable topics of Chick's work, you flaked.
About the only people who might be offended are fundies, and frankly when their message is denigratory to begin with, it's open season on them. Quite frankly, I don't see any reason why someone who was apparently in agreement with the original assessment of Chick to really think that Ozrat was making any blanket statements about Christianity, nor about you. In fact, it looks like he was replying to Baboon and posting more pieces of Chick's work...just like the original post, NOT DIRECTED AT YOU. The posting times and time to do the URL links and IMG links supports this as well.
Bottom line, you're the source of the problem in this case, CCR. Your victim complex, as we've known it from DAC and other places, is frankly quite pathetic. You do nothing but portray yourself as a sad little child desperate for attention. Dicing semantics doesn't work on me, boy, so you can drop that routine. You might want to try that on some who are a bit naive in your methods of attention-whoring, it's not going to work here.
I think a good many of you forget the most important part of WaterGirl's first post in this thread, instead isolating and attacking the part that seems inciteful. Read it in context this time, the important part is boldfaced:
I would like to note again that this reply was done AFTER CCR flaked out and started crying about the imaginary lions. Hell, neither Ozrat nor WaterGirl deserved the following comment, as they didn't make ANY comments about Christianity as a whole in their posts, but instead the commentary was about a fundie named Jack Chick and the outlandish bullshit the fellow comes up with.
Up until that point, the conversation wasn't really about Christianity, just about the way one insane cartoonist draws it.
Here, I'll even quote you, too.
Hey, I detect a lie. By the same merit I could also state that without proof and with verifiable methods, the world is over 6k years (especially when you take into account Cro-Magnum and the Neaderthals), which would make Christianity the one full of shit. But then again, you'd have to follow your own words and by your own argument, you've lost any care of people reading your hypocritical dreck. Do you ever take that into account for what you do? Hell no. You never have and by this display, likely never will.
Survey says: You were the one who tried to incite things (without any obvious discussion basis or background), and when they refused to take the bait, you went for a more direct path. One thread was indeed baiting at you, and I'm surprised it didn't come to my attention earlier (though, given your past record, I did have to chuckle at it), but in this case there's really no baiting unless you really stretch for it and you did.
You had your chance, CCR, and you fucked it up again. I don't make warnings lightly. If you can't learn how to refrain from touching topics that are such a problem for you, then I guess we'll have to do it for you. One week, banned.
PS: No, I was the one who originally posted about his site, but that's when we used WebBBS.
Wait, wait. I don't get this. Catholics aren't christians anymore? Also, Ozrat was saying Jack Dickchick is a "snakehandler" and a "born again freak" (what?).
Argh.
This thread made me dream about a giant creature, half woman, half spider, dragging somebody impaled on one of her legs and screaming "Belphegor" and "Bahomet" at the top of her infernal voice.
Baboon: In this context, I think "Christianity" applies to a specific kind of Pat Robertson-style Protestantism. Everything else, of course, is worshipping Satan.
This thread made me dream about a giant creature, half woman, half spider, dragging somebody impaled on one of her legs and screaming "Belphegor" and "Bahomet" at the top of her infernal voice.
Baboon: In this context, I think "Christianity" applies to a specific kind of Pat Robertson-style Protestantism. Everything else, of course, is worshipping Satan.
Paladin Solo
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Hideki Hitler said:PS: No, I was the one who originally posted about his site, but that's when we used WebBBS.
You son-of-a-bitch.