It's not quite the same thing. Arcanum had TWO combat systems that had to be balanced alongside the rest of the game. A hypothetical RT with pause game from Troika would have only one. It wouldn't be as good as TB, that's for sure, but it would be better. I don't think calling it a hybrid is correct.Macaco said:
Leonard interview@DAC
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Claw said:"I can't believe it's not a troll"sunny jim said:
If I was an admin I'd ban you without warning.
Hmm, odd.
How come he's still posting, Odin?Odin said:
uhh... what the hell do you want from me?
: it's good that you're not an admin then isn't it? get a life. anyway, fallout is fallout, and it's not "just" a pa rpg... it's unique, with all it represents... call me pessimistic, but i'm positive that their rpg won't even come near to the level of fallout... and i didn't really like the idea of that halberd the guy was holding in the screenshot of the PA rpg...
God is Dog backwards
Mildly Dipped
Leon answered a few more questions after I posted the interview - there are a few new questions in there, about hybrid combat, ToEE's sales figures, the Chris Glenn concept art and talking about party based RPGs and mature rated games.
sunny jim said:and i didn't really like the idea of that halberd the guy was holding in the screenshot of the PA rpg...
That's from a different game they were working on, they just stuck it in there because the art was available.
And good work Teatime, keep it up.
SimpleMinded
Vault Fossil
Bradylama said:
lord... I could never imagine arcanum being done by only ten people. That's some impressive work if you ask me
Role-Player
A Smooth-Skin
Its impressive, but it may also shine some light on why it had so many problems.
Thank god it wasn't a halberd at all, but a rifle with a BIG bayonet. I thought it was cool enough and wouldn't mind if the design was included in the game if it fits.sunny jim said:i didn't really like the idea of that halberd the guy was holding in the screenshot of the PA rpg...
SimpleMinded
Vault Fossil
Role-Player said:
True but it makes you wonder... imagine if they had a bigger team 8) .
Gnidrologist
Wasted
Darn money making/loving no good Bethesda.
This whole thing of Beth taking F3 away reminds me of an imaginary situation.
Now imagine:
There is a near to bankrupt stage movie company which happen to own the license on Indiana Jones 4 movie. They have already talked to Stephen Spielberg(Troyka), who's willing not only to direct the 4th incarnation of IJ, but also has the cash(no doubt he has) to be able to take over as a producer thus bying the license of IJ4. Also, Harrison Ford(TB, Special,mature, etc) has stated to be ready for participation and promised to get rid of unnecessary weight
. It seems that all goes perfect, fans are looking forward to upcoming sequel about aging adventurer archeologist. Just some contracts to sign, some deals to make. Formalities only.But then suddenly...
In comes some prominent and wealthy, yet completely ignorant third party. Lets's say it's movie company XX. It has a big sack of money and it tries and buys the still unsealed licence of IJ4 from the bankrupting company, because of that particular sack of money that was just a little heavyer then Mr. Spielberg was able to offer.
So, the new owner of IJ$..oh sorry, mistyped, IJ4 license states that they always wanted to make IJ movie, because they were huge fans of the series and are looking forward now to make a great sequel of the previous masterpices and bla bla bla...
Well, the fanbase of IJ movies is a bit shocked. Awaken from from the knockdown they try to ask all possible questions to company XX about what they're planning to do and what's the aproximate perspective of IJ4 movie.
And the XX responds:
Well, we are really excited about this new challenge we have now and bla bla bla...and don't espect us to make an action based adventure movie about an avanturist archeologist riding tombs in exotic parts of the world, it's just not what we do well. As for H. Ford in the title role, we haven't decided yet. We have some brilliant actors we are already employing in other projects so we might use one of them. I'm sure it will not dissapoint you if we'll do that, they're marvellous, really.
One last question. Why did you bought the IJ4 license, honestly?
Company XX: ...
That almost made me cry. Not really, but it's pretty damn good.
How can Bethesda make a game as good as the original creators?
I hope they go bankrupt sinking money into FO3 when they try to target people that have no clue what Fallout is and it fails fails FAILS.
Then we will all join hands and sing the "GG BETHESDA" song over and over again.
How can Bethesda make a game as good as the original creators?
I hope they go bankrupt sinking money into FO3 when they try to target people that have no clue what Fallout is and it fails fails FAILS.
Then we will all join hands and sing the "GG BETHESDA" song over and over again.
Torpedo said:
That's not what i meant, what i was trying to say is that if they put supposedly so much money into the license, it would be very likely they would put good money/time into game development, instead of trying to make a quick buck on it, like fopos.
And it's true he hadn't mentioned intention of making a hybrid system, but on the newly posted questions he does, this way avoiding me looking bad (well, looking even worse), thanks leonard, here's the quote:
Gnidrologist
Wasted
Yes, that's right, Troyka had exactly the amount they had( hmm..genious conclusion, isn't it), but the point is, if Bethesda hadn't interfere, Troyka would own F3 licence now, because Interplay would've sell it anyway if there hadn't been a higher bidder. And we would be much happier now, wouldn't we? Beth spoiled it totaly and I don't think they were so naive to not predict it. I don't think any other company would pop up offering a huge sack of $, because F3 just isn't such a huge candy for publishers/devs to reach for so desperately. I saw F3 in the caring hands of Troyka (or Obsidian less, likely though) for quite a time and didn't have a significant doubt about it. That is why Beths unnecessary interference was like total knockdown for me. WHY?!?!
I've read a whole lot of news, statements and lurk around different forums including Beth's, but I still haven't figured out decent rational explanation for Beth to take over F3 developing. It's somewhat surreal that they did. A game style that is completely out of their turf and also a game that hasn't been a huge bestseller anyway. So what's the point. Does it make sense?
I dunno, maybe it was an idea of some moronic ignorant yet influetial money sack that happened to be Beth's sponsor or something like that, but I thought that they're kind of independent, both finacially and creatively. It's just that from all the interwiews and ''dancing'' they performed untill now, it seems that they might be a little confused themselves and don't have a clue what to do next, which is the reason their official statements ar so unconvicing and evasive as they get.
Dixie_Rebel
Still Mildly Glowing
I think we should all just relax and give Bethesda a chance. I am nervous about whether the game will be good or not but you never know, it could turn out to be a REALLY good game.
Do not judge a book by its cover, open the book, read it, and then say whether it is good or not.
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Do not judge a book by its cover, open the book, read it, and then say whether it is good or not.
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*oozing sarcasm*
I'm sorry to break it to you, but it has been scientifically proven that it could not. It'd be like moving faster than light. I'm truly sorry.Dixie_Rebel said:I think we should all just relax and give Bethesda a chance. I am nervous about whether the game will be good or not but you never know, it could turn out to be a REALLY good game.
How can you say that? I even change a book's contents by the cover on new releases! When I saw that I, Robot is now sold with Will Smith on the cover, I burned my old copy immediately!
Bradylama
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
I wouldn't say that. They certainly have the creativity to pull it off.
Converse. Vintage 2004.
Re: *oozing sarcasm*
Just little correction ... there are theories that assume it is possible. While they state that speeding up from sub-light speed to speed faster than light is imposible they also state that there might be certain form of matter that allways exist in such speed ( it's created and it die while still in speed faster than light )
Seeing this maybe we realy should wait and see what Bethesda will bring us
Claw said:
Just little correction ... there are theories that assume it is possible. While they state that speeding up from sub-light speed to speed faster than light is imposible they also state that there might be certain form of matter that allways exist in such speed ( it's created and it die while still in speed faster than light )
Seeing this maybe we realy should wait and see what Bethesda will bring us
Dixie_Rebel
Still Mildly Glowing
Re: *oozing sarcasm*
lol
Nice post. I think we should be encouraging Bethesda to good instead of saying they are doomed to failure. Come on guys, if you want something done right you have to do it yourself, right? I think if we are nice and positive about it they just might take our suggestions. Please do not let this be another P.O.S. Lets MAKE it not another P.O.S.
Note: P.O.S. meaning that THING made for the XBOX.
Frog said:Claw said:
Just little correction ... there are theories that assume it is possible. While they state that speeding up from sub-light speed to speed faster than light is imposible they also state that there might be certain form of matter that allways exist in such speed ( it's created and it die while still in speed faster than light )
Seeing this maybe we realy should wait and see what Bethesda will bring us
lol
Nice post. I think we should be encouraging Bethesda to good instead of saying they are doomed to failure. Come on guys, if you want something done right you have to do it yourself, right? I think if we are nice and positive about it they just might take our suggestions. Please do not let this be another P.O.S. Lets MAKE it not another P.O.S.
Note: P.O.S. meaning that THING made for the XBOX.
Gnidrologist
Wasted
I can't get over the fact that they tried and bought the license in first place. It was so unnecessary. No one gets any benefit from this, nor Beth, nor Troyka, nor us, nor even uncle Bob. Noone.
Why should they? If they would've been so respondent, they would never even try to steel away F3 from under the nose of Troyka, being well aware that Bethesda isn't the most appriciated company to develop F3, but Troyka is. Well, actually Bethesda was never even mentioned as potential F3 developer in any case, because it would've sound as crazy as to say that Eddy Murphy will be starring as Max in Mad Max 4.
So much for listening to community.