Max Payne 3

Yeah, multiplayer is in big need of tweaking.
I can agree with you on all of your points and specifically on the annoying connection issues. And besides that ranking up itself is pretty unbalanced too IMO. First 4-5 ranks are really hard to get, because you are weak, you have no powerful bursts and your weapons suck.
But once you painfully ranked up to level 10 or so, ranking up further is easy and quick. You need less shots to kill enemies as the weapons are more powerful and you have normal bursts and some useful items.

That's pretty much what most popular shooters have in their multiplayer, but if we talk about TPS and, more specifically, those from Rockstar, I personally like GTA IV multiplayer more. What really matters there is your shooting and moving around skill. It makes you more valuable as a player than in a game with ranking up bonus progression and hence is more rewarding on a deeper level.
 
To be honest, I would never play Max Payne for multiplayer :?
After playing the originals, it's a mode that just feels out of place... :?
 
Ranking up, and FPS, makes NO FUCKING SENSE!
Skill should win the day, always.
(ps i drink beer and post)
 
Already into Act III. The game's OK, I suppose, but there are too many cutscenes in between the action. Then again, I'm not really understanding... Is Max trying to start over again? In the originals he was trying to get revenge. Now? Just killing cause it's cool.

And, there you go. Finished the game. Still don't understand what Max was trying to achieve and if he really achieved anything. I guess all the shooting and slow-mo pays for it.
 
Played about 6 hrs total at hard, gunning feels good and i was rather suprised that bullet time still feels that good in MP even though ive grown to dislike it in other games. I guess it works when its actually needed to use to survive and gameplay is built around it.

MP3 is also quite the PC port, it runs good frames with 4850 which was medium level GPU in 2009 at high settings and 1080p resolution. (no AA or v-sync)

Levels/enviroments are varied, detailed and intresting. Especially the parts in slums that are meant to build up tension worked well for me. Voice acting is good and most of the time cut scenes have been intresting enough for me to not skip them, even when there are quite the few of them.

Bad things are that it really doesnt look like max payne, or rather it doesnt look/feel like noir anymore. It doesnt have those cool comic style cut scenes that i so liked and while max paynes voice actor does his job well enough im starting to grow tired of his drunken depression, i guess it might be intentional so player starts rooting for his new start or something like that. Oh and some of the effects in cutscenes are plain annoying.
 
Again, "Noir" doesn't mean "rain all the time and everything needs to be dark and monochrome". Look up the definition of it. Even though Max Payne 3 goes a bit overboard near the end, it is still a Noir story through and through.

And it still feels "comic" enough for me, stylized, like some modern visual comic on screen with all those scanlines, effects and such in the cutscenes. The technology behind how they create these scenes is very impressing too.
 
Surf Solar said:
Again, "Noir" doesn't mean "rain all the time and everything needs to be dark and monochrome". Look up the definition of it. Even though Max Payne 3 goes a bit overboard near the end, it is still a Noir story through and through.

And it still feels "comic" enough for me, stylized, like some modern visual comic on screen with all those scanlines, effects and such in the cutscenes. The technology behind how they create these scenes is very impressing too.
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I suppose it can be noir, not too familiar with the term then.

It has "comic feel" when it comes to cutscenes sure, but i personally thought doing story in a game as (literally) comic pages was really unique and neat idea and worked very well, i would have preferred them bringing it to Max Payne 3.
 
Got it too, didn't play much as I'm only in Chapter 3 (the part in the past, after the stadium). Mostly because, at Hard, the game is handing my arse to me. Some of the cover-less parts in the Stadium were brutal, must have died at least a dozen times during that part. Not that it's a bad thing, it presents a fair level of challenge without going overboard and making it tedious and unfun.

The shooting aspect is solid. I don't use sticky cover so much, partly because there's lots of vertical cover such as pillars (which certainly beat hallways of chest-high walls) and partly because shoot-dodge is awesome, if a little bit risky when facing more than three guys. Ennemy AI is bog standard, I've had a few mooks try to flank me, but my trusty pistol told them to F off in the most effective manner possible.

The visual package is really, really good. This game looks loads better than any console port (it had better, considering the file size, I mean 26 GB?? Skyrim is huge yet only takes up what 10?) and I really dig the animations, lots of work obviously went there. The atmosphere is very good as well, albeit some effects are a bit overdone. Music is cool, and voice acting across the board is very competent, Max's actor in particular nails it.

Only thing I don't really like thus far is Max himself, or rather his self-pity. He just gunned down a veritable army of thugs, yet he only seems capable of telling himself how he always fucks up and is worthless. Hell, even before the game begins, when he has a quiet job protecting socialites, getting free alcohol and being surrounded by gorgeous women he still manages to whine about it all. It gets a bit grating. Yeah, he's been through a lof of fucked up shit, but could he not at least savor the moments before the situation goes way beyond FUBAR?

That said, it's a great experience so far. Can't wait to play more, and will try the multiplayer once I finish the campaign.
 
Mutoes said:
Bad things are that it really doesnt look like max payne...
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...or feel like it. If you listen to what Max says, it's certainly different from his reflections in MP 1 and 2. And the whole game feels like GTA V albeit no driving and linear levels. I guess that's because of the GTA writing.
 
Surf Solar said:
Again, "Noir" doesn't mean "rain all the time and everything needs to be dark and monochrome". Look up the definition of it.
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Which one? There is no such thing as "the definition" of noir.
 
Buxbaum666 said:
Surf Solar said:
Again, "Noir" doesn't mean "rain all the time and everything needs to be dark and monochrome". Look up the definition of it.
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Which one? There is no such thing as "the definition" of noir.
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Ofcourse not, but on the same vein I can say that Max Payne 1-2 only delivered on one certain point of "Noire" where MP3 delivers on another part of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_noir

"Film noir is a cinematic term used primarily to describe stylish Hollywood crime dramas, particularly those that emphasize cynical attitudes and sexual motivations. "




This is pretty much the definition of Max Payne 3 aswell. Max Payne 3 is heavily stylized, features a very Hollywood-esque narration and the main character is a cynical prick throughout the whole game while chasing after women he can never reach. I don't know, but it nailed the same themes like the previous two games for me.

The main character questions himself all through the entire plot. He basically puts himself in situations where can get the bullet to his head that he so craves for. But it never happens. This is another cynical thing going on IMO. At one point in the story he realizes something and tries to change himself. But even that doesn't work out as he wants. The ending is intentionally ambigious.

@Illosar - you actually play HARDER if you use sticky cover. ALWAYS use the shoot doges instead, aim for their heads, take RISKY actions. I know it sounds retarded, but Max Payne 3 actually plays easier if you take some risks instead of hiding behind cover! :)
 
I'm somewhat surprised that people on NMA fail to grasp just how much of a human wreck Max Payne is.

First, he lost his wife and baby girl to junkies hopped up on Valkyr. That's enough for most normal people to BSOD and live the rest of their lives at the bottom of the glass. Add to the mix what seems like a lifetime spent undercover infiltrating the darkest parts of NYC's criminal underworld, living as a dead man walking hounded by criminals and police alike, brutal beatings, drug overdoses, storming several criminal strongholds (Aesir and Horne included) against impossible odds, survived several injuries that would kill lesser men, killed former friends, lost the only person that would wash away his survivor's guilt... Oh, and did I mention being an alcoholic and drug addict?

Max is not a human anymore. He's a wreck whose very existence brings misery and death to everyone around him. I don't find it surprising that he doesn't find free booze among a horde of corrupt and degenerate rich people fun.
 
Tagaziel said:
I'm somewhat surprised that people on NMA fail to grasp just how much of a human wreck Max Payne is.

First, he lost his wife and baby girl to junkies hopped up on Valkyr. That's enough for most normal people to BSOD and live the rest of their lives at the bottom of the glass. Add to the mix what seems like a lifetime spent undercover infiltrating the darkest parts of NYC's criminal underworld, living as a dead man walking hounded by criminals and police alike, brutal beatings, drug overdoses, storming several criminal strongholds (Aesir and Horne included) against impossible odds, survived several injuries that would kill lesser men, killed former friends, lost the only person that would wash away his survivor's guilt... Oh, and did I mention being an alcoholic and drug addict?

Max is not a human anymore. He's a wreck whose very existence brings misery and death to everyone around him. I don't find it surprising that he doesn't find free booze among a horde of corrupt and degenerate rich people fun.
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Well, nobody said he was a happy fellow did they? He's just an unlucky anti-hero. A very depressed one at that who feels he just needs to continue on with his life. Vladimir even asks Max why he doesn't just kill himself.
 
I installed & finished the single player portion of the game yesterday. Didn't take long, but did not feel too short either.

Had some good things and some bad things. Overall, it was better than I had expected, but not as good as I had hoped.

I didn't mind the setting too much, probably because I loved Cidade de Deus, Tropa de Elite and Tropa de Elite 2 - O Inimigo Agora É Outro. I do prefer a nicely dark setting, but the flashy colors of Brazil were tamed by the darkness of the subject matter.

I'd say the game had more potential that was left unfulfilled (story, gameplay, etc), but what annoyed me most were things like shooting too close to an obstacle and your guns would be shooting straight up in the air... They also went overboard with their bullet holes, I can't remember how many times I walked around with a bullet hole or two straight through the heart. Makes the cutscenes make a lil' retarded. :P

As a gunnut, I have to say the guns chosen fit Brazil well, but it's sad they mixed up so much ammo etc and that they did not seem to adjust recoil and hitting power for things like the FN FAL.
 
SuAside said:
As a gunnut, I have to say the guns chosen fit Brazil well, but it's sad they mixed up so much ammo etc and that they did not seem to adjust recoil and hitting power for things like the FN FAL.
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It is a game that's based on noir films, so it's pretty much a given they'll go with popular perceptions of guns, rather than their actual performance. Kind of the reason JES made the .45 in Honest Hearts more akin to the myth-gun, rather than the real deal.
 
@Tagaziel: I'm not asking him to tap-dance in joy or anything, but at least consider that things could be worse before they do get worse. As it stands, I, the player, have a hard time caring about the whole thing when the main character himself doesn't seem to give a shit, even as he guns down hundreds of people.

I know he's a human wreck. The introductory cutscene and his endless grumbling make that quite clear. But is it too much to ask he shows even a glimpse of an emotion other than being depressed and/or angry?
 
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