regardless of Doom having a shitty story, there are a lot of worthwhile games out there storywise. that's one of the reasons why i consider crafting a game as an artform.
Max Payne the movie is.... [SPOILER WARNING]
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Ah yes, such Classics as the Secret of Monkey Island, Snatcher, even Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake (Metal Gear 2, not Metal Gear Solid 2!) could be used as a concept for a cool espionage thriller.
There's a Monkey Island play that is pretty much awesome. I think you can watch it on youtube.
Doom (movie) had a better story than Doom (game), It was more realistic (srsly, I would believe those beasts to be some kind of super mutant rather than a hellish fiend, but they could also make them some kind of local beast that lives inside the mountain.
they should've made those beasts more smarter and sneakier, something like Xenomorph (from the movie Alien) in terms of ambushes. plus, they needed a better and more better plot for Doom.
EDIT : I'm sorry I forgot, they were sneaky, but in the end all of them moved into the guy's range like some kind of target dummy. and the scene of them coming towards the guy "one by one" was a bit funny...In the game they would just "storm" towards you all together.
Doom, Hit Man, Resident Evil didn't made me think about them even a "bit". and yet It's funny to see people trying to defend those crap. (this comment is not directed at you Multidirectional)
and after you have finished the game you'll only remember it for the things it was good in. be it gameplay, story, character developement, etc etc.
we have lots of lots of games that are worth adapting, the problem is that the movie developers dont know WHAT TO ADAPT and WHAT NOT TO adapt from a game. I don't think they are gamers at heart. so mostly they take the entire idea as joke and try to inject their own stuff into it. assuming that gamers dont care about it.
shihonage
Made in USSR
Sadly I went to see Max Payne on opening night. It was almost as horrible as Ultraviolet.
Almost.
Almost.
how does it compare to Hitman?
shihonage
Made in USSR
Hitman had more action.
Paul_cz
Mildly Dipped
Hitman is one of my favourite game series ever.
It oozes with style, 47 is incredible badass, David Bateson is flawless.Game and level design specifically is one giant masterpiece.Jesper Kyd's music is godly.
Movie?
They totally fucked it up.No stealth. Fucking crybaby Olyphant.Brainless action, idiotic story.FUCK! I guess I will have to settle for Leon as the best hitman movie of all time. It's only 14 years old afterall.
And now they are doing the same thing to Max Payne, my other favourite series?
FUCK THEM!
(and to think I actually liked the trailers and hoped for a good movie..)
It oozes with style, 47 is incredible badass, David Bateson is flawless.Game and level design specifically is one giant masterpiece.Jesper Kyd's music is godly.
Movie?
They totally fucked it up.No stealth. Fucking crybaby Olyphant.Brainless action, idiotic story.FUCK! I guess I will have to settle for Leon as the best hitman movie of all time. It's only 14 years old afterall.
And now they are doing the same thing to Max Payne, my other favourite series?
FUCK THEM!
(and to think I actually liked the trailers and hoped for a good movie..)
whirlingdervish
Brahmin Cavalry Commander
I thought that for what story they had to work with, Doom was one of the better adaptations of a video game to film in recent years.
it was pretty much all gunplay, scary beasties, and cussing, with a big badass main character.
If there had actually been a story to the game itself that had more depth than "go to hell and kill shit" I wouldn't be saying this tho..
Of the RE movies, I had a feeling of the games when I saw nemesis the first time (right up until he moved around like a dude in a rubber suit) and when the chick fights the Lickers in that church by the cemetery.
I really didn't play much of Max Payne so the movie might not piss me off if it isn't altogether horrible as a film.
It could use a better leading man tho.. I can tell you that without even having seen it.
it was pretty much all gunplay, scary beasties, and cussing, with a big badass main character.
If there had actually been a story to the game itself that had more depth than "go to hell and kill shit" I wouldn't be saying this tho..
Of the RE movies, I had a feeling of the games when I saw nemesis the first time (right up until he moved around like a dude in a rubber suit) and when the chick fights the Lickers in that church by the cemetery.
I really didn't play much of Max Payne so the movie might not piss me off if it isn't altogether horrible as a film.
It could use a better leading man tho.. I can tell you that without even having seen it.
zioburosky13
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Scott Miller: "This movie sucks"
Miller elaborated, "...The entire time we're told that this drug makes 1-in-100 people super-human, yet Lupino doesn't demonstrate this in the least. It should have taken a hail storm of bullets to bring him down, plus it should have been Max that kills him."
Miller, whose company is best known for Duke Nukem, also took issue with the portrayal of the character B.B. Hensley, a colleague of Max Payne who ends up betraying the titular character. He also thought the character of Max Payne himself fell short of the game series' standards.
Miller also disagreed with the direction of the movie's narrative. In the game, players know that Max Payne seeks revenge on the drug circle that murdered his family. But moviegoers wouldn't know this critical point until well into the film.
Miller said, "A big problem with the film is that we do not really know what is driving Max until we see the flashback scene showing him coming home and finding his family murdered. In the game, we put this scene right at the front of the story for a reason!
"Saving this scene until mid-film is a narrative blunder, because the audience needs to empathize with Max in order to like him and understand what drives him."
Miller added he "could go on and on" about problems he had with the movie, which was directed by John Moore.
A film adaptation of Duke Nukem is also reportedly in the works.
is more fun to watch than Max Payne the movie.
Especially the 30 minutes battle scene in a hospital
Miller elaborated, "...The entire time we're told that this drug makes 1-in-100 people super-human, yet Lupino doesn't demonstrate this in the least. It should have taken a hail storm of bullets to bring him down, plus it should have been Max that kills him."
Miller, whose company is best known for Duke Nukem, also took issue with the portrayal of the character B.B. Hensley, a colleague of Max Payne who ends up betraying the titular character. He also thought the character of Max Payne himself fell short of the game series' standards.
Miller also disagreed with the direction of the movie's narrative. In the game, players know that Max Payne seeks revenge on the drug circle that murdered his family. But moviegoers wouldn't know this critical point until well into the film.
Miller said, "A big problem with the film is that we do not really know what is driving Max until we see the flashback scene showing him coming home and finding his family murdered. In the game, we put this scene right at the front of the story for a reason!
"Saving this scene until mid-film is a narrative blunder, because the audience needs to empathize with Max in order to like him and understand what drives him."
Miller added he "could go on and on" about problems he had with the movie, which was directed by John Moore.
A film adaptation of Duke Nukem is also reportedly in the works.
Especially the 30 minutes battle scene in a hospital
1) sheer awesomeness,Loxley said:
2) steriods,
3) something that has to do "with women, whips and oil".
when a rapist who happens to be a movie dev sets his eyes on Fallout and gives some money to Beth that gladly accepts to prostitude Fallout for money...wait, wasn't it the main reason they bought Fallout3 in first place? anyways.
so after every crew member had its fun with Fallout, they make a movie out of it and sell it for money.
awesome!
I watched Max Payne on opening night because a friend and I had reserved tickets before word started coming in.
Yes, it was bad. I actually thought it was BRILLIANTLY bad, and I plan on buying the DVD for all the same reasons that I've got the Ed Wood collection sitting in a place of honor on my DVD rack. My dearest hope is that Rifftrax or Cinematic Titanic step up to the plate, as this would easily be the Grand Slam of the year for them.
Yes, it was bad. I actually thought it was BRILLIANTLY bad, and I plan on buying the DVD for all the same reasons that I've got the Ed Wood collection sitting in a place of honor on my DVD rack. My dearest hope is that Rifftrax or Cinematic Titanic step up to the plate, as this would easily be the Grand Slam of the year for them.
Multidirectional said:
Well it didn't really have a story or character development but it could have a good story. I mean it was a lot more creative then Wolfenstein or someshit. It's plenty to work with and the Doom movie kinda doesn't even try.
As for Max Payne: I'm watching it now and it seems that video game movies have taken a genre of their own: stupid directors that like to show people their creativity with gimmicks.
Well, Doom didn't know whether to be Alien-clone or Aliens-clone.
If it tried to be the first one, there was too much action and too little suspension. If it tried to be the second one, there was too little action. Demon invasion from Hell would have been better than the regular "mutant beast from Mars"-thingy. The final fight was pretty nice and you can't deny the cool symbolism of the last pic - the elevator ride. The hero, man in dark green and black, all bloody and infected, carrying his sister, all virginal white, in an elevator, ascending towards Heaven.
RE-movies were crappy but atleast had a nice action sequence every now and then. The moment Milla kicks doggies around in Re1 is pure gold. Yeah and I still think Ultraviolet was bad. Go see Equilibrium if you wanna see a good low-budget sci-fi flick.
Hitman was pretty good, I don't understand how Olyphant can be called crybaby. If nothing I liked that they didn't make him a James Bond -clone. He didn't fuck the girl at anypoint and he was just too insanely badass for anyone. Okey, they ditched the sneaking part but he did have few disguises. I think it showed well that he was NOT a normal human being by any mark.
Mortal Kombats, Street Fighter, Mario Bros... less said about those the better. Though every Kylie Minogue-fan should see SF. Her fighting scene is hilarious! And yeah, burn Uwe Boll at a stake along with the master-tapes of his shitfests.
If it tried to be the first one, there was too much action and too little suspension. If it tried to be the second one, there was too little action. Demon invasion from Hell would have been better than the regular "mutant beast from Mars"-thingy. The final fight was pretty nice and you can't deny the cool symbolism of the last pic - the elevator ride. The hero, man in dark green and black, all bloody and infected, carrying his sister, all virginal white, in an elevator, ascending towards Heaven.
RE-movies were crappy but atleast had a nice action sequence every now and then. The moment Milla kicks doggies around in Re1 is pure gold. Yeah and I still think Ultraviolet was bad. Go see Equilibrium if you wanna see a good low-budget sci-fi flick.
Hitman was pretty good, I don't understand how Olyphant can be called crybaby. If nothing I liked that they didn't make him a James Bond -clone. He didn't fuck the girl at anypoint and he was just too insanely badass for anyone. Okey, they ditched the sneaking part but he did have few disguises. I think it showed well that he was NOT a normal human being by any mark.
Mortal Kombats, Street Fighter, Mario Bros... less said about those the better. Though every Kylie Minogue-fan should see SF. Her fighting scene is hilarious! And yeah, burn Uwe Boll at a stake along with the master-tapes of his shitfests.