New Fallout 3 Teaser Trailer

[BunkerBud]

Quote: I think that I am falling into Beth's target demographic (RPG fans between 18 - 30 who have played / enjoyed the Fallout games of the past). I also don't think that this is a bad thing

Does that explain why half of the bethesda forum is full of people asking, 'Gee what is fallout, looks like bioshock doiiiiiiiii'

then there are people like you that don't believe things which are unique and special to be transformed into some mainstream garbage, is wrong.

 

[Beelzebud]

Unimaginative recycled crap, that has neither the charm, nor the style, that the intro for Fallout had.

 

[rcorporon]

Does that explain why half of the bethesda forum is full of people asking, 'Gee what is fallout, looks like bioshock doiiiiiiiii'

then there are people like you that don't believe things which are unique and special to be transformed into some mainstream garbage, is wrong.

I have to agree 100% that most of the chuckleheads over at the Beth forums shouldn't be allowed to have unmonitored internet time.

Although, you do swing a rather wide paintbrush in terms of categorizing me.

I think that, if done PROPERLY, a game can be re-made into something newer, and possibly better.

I'll outline an example:

I remember the first time I played Metroid on my NES. That game blew me away. It was great exploring the world the designers had created. Then, when Super Metroid (I didn't play the Gameboy one) came out, they managed to keep the same game mechanics and improve on the game in an overall manner (much like FO2 did to FO1). I then learned, later, that they were moving Metroid to a first person shooter style game, in Metroid Prime. I was horrified. However, when Metroid Prime shipped, it turned out to feel exactly the same as the original game had. It was about exploration and puzzle solving, but done in a different POV. I liked it quite a bit.

Another example: I was a huge Ninja Gaiden fan (again with the NES memories). I learned that they were going to re-do this franchise in a 3d action style. I was worried, but the new Ninja Gaiden turned out to be awesome.

So, all I'm saying, is that I'm willing to give FO3 the benefit of the doubt, simply because I haven't played it yet.

Calling FO3 garbage now is like saying you don't like the food at a restaurant that isn't even built yet. How can you know?

I'm nervous about the new game, and after playing Oblivion, I'm a tad worried even, but I'm still holding judgment until I've actually played it.

 

[BunkerBud]

Once I heard bethesda was making this game, I thought I would go back in time and play their other games, which honestly, lasted about a day. Fallout had a certain gameplay mechanic about it that made so fucking cool, and I cannot look at these fallout 3 trailers, previews and believe it is going to be any different than the rest of the titles hey have released.

that is in no way a good thing, due to the crap nature of the previous games...they are not improving what they are capable of, they are simply putting a 'skin' on it. that is all.

this is not going to be fallout, it will not be like it....did fallout have a linear storyline? was there a path that you HAD to take? NO

 

[Per]

Calling FO3 garbage now is like saying you don't like the food at a restaurant that isn't even built yet. How can you know?

Or it's as if you like Bob's Pizza and Bob dies of a heart attack from eating too much bad pizza and Ben takes over and promises you'll get pizza just the same as before and then demolishes the place and puts up a Tex-Mex restaurant and you hate Tex-Mex because your uncle and great-grandfather were killed by border vigilantes but all Ben is saying with big Tex-Mex construction machines in the background is not to worry about your pizza cravings. JUST SAYING

 

[BunkerBud]

wow, sorry.
It is difficult not get pissed off about this. A game that is so good it can be replayed for ten years+ and still be cool, it isn't easy to watched it get butchered.

 

[rcorporon]

Once I heard bethesda was making this game, I thought I would go back in time and play their other games, which honestly, lasted about a day. Fallout had a certain gameplay mechanic about it that made so fucking cool, and I cannot look at these fallout 3 trailers, previews and believe it is going to be any different than the rest of the titles hey have released.

that is in no way a good thing, due to the crap nature of the previous games...they are not improving what they are capable of, they are simply putting a 'skin' on it. that is all.

this is not going to be fallout, it will not be like it....did fallout have a linear storyline? was there a path that you HAD to take? NO

We'll just have to agree to disagree, it seems. If you didn't enjoy the Elder Scroll's games, then, yeah, you probably will not enjoy what Beth does with FO3.

I didn't play very much Oblivion, but as for Daggerfall and Mororwind, they definitely did not have a linear story that had to be followed. You were free to do as much exploring and whatnot as you liked, and could tackle the main quest at whatever pace you wanted.

FO1 and 2 felt the same to me as Morrowind did. They were great games that, for the most part, let you do what you wanted. The only bit of FO1 that was linear was the water chip bit at the start. The game forced you to do that quest within a certain amount of time.

I'll also agree that if FO3 is too similar to Oblivion, I probably won't enjoy it as much as the previous games. Still though, I haven't played it so I have to wait and see.

 

[Pope Viper]

Calling FO3 garbage now is like saying you don't like the food at a restaurant that isn't even built yet. How can you know?

Or it's as if you like Bob's Pizza and Bob dies of a heart attack from eating too much bad pizza and Ben takes over and promises you'll get pizza just the same as before and then demolishes the place and puts up a Tex-Mex restaurant and you hate Tex-Mex because your uncle and great-grandfather were killed by border vigilantes but all Ben is saying with big Tex-Mex construction machines in the background is not to worry about your pizza cravings. JUST SAYING

Lizard, will you marry me?

 

[rcorporon]

Calling FO3 garbage now is like saying you don't like the food at a restaurant that isn't even built yet. How can you know?

Or it's as if you like Bob's Pizza and Bob dies of a heart attack from eating too much bad pizza and Ben takes over and promises you'll get pizza just the same as before and then demolishes the place and puts up a Tex-Mex restaurant and you hate Tex-Mex because your uncle and great-grandfather were killed by border vigilantes but all Ben is saying with big Tex-Mex construction machines in the background is not to worry about your pizza cravings. JUST SAYING

I found this to be both hilarious, and very enlightened.

 

[Tagaziel]

Calling FO3 garbage now is like saying you don't like the food at a restaurant that isn't even built yet. How can you know?

Or it's as if you like Bob's Pizza and Bob dies of a heart attack from eating too much bad pizza and Ben takes over and promises you'll get pizza just the same as before and then demolishes the place and puts up a Tex-Mex restaurant and you hate Tex-Mex because your uncle and great-grandfather were killed by border vigilantes but all Ben is saying with big Tex-Mex construction machines in the background is not to worry about your pizza cravings. JUST SAYING

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[jfreund]

Damn, if Bethesda based the actual GAME on Fallout to the extent that they have based their teasers on Fallout, we would be happy campers.

 

[rcorporon]

For being awesome he gets the highest honour given in a dead empire?

 

[Ranne]

Calling FO3 garbage now is like saying you don't like the food at a restaurant that isn't even built yet. How can you know?

Does this scenario include an uneducated garbageman posing as the Chef de Cuisine of the hypothetical establishment?

It is difficult not get pissed off about this. A game that is so good it can be replayed for ten years+ and still be cool, it isn't easy to watched it get butchered.

I know exactly how it feels. I've been living in the U.S. for the past 8 years...

And, Mikael Grizzly, the Gold Star of the Hero of the USSR?

 

[Tagaziel]

We're anything BUT democratic.

Plus, Soviet decorations are awesome.

 

[BunkerBud]

de-mo-crat-ic? what is this...I was pretty sure that is only an idea of power and control that people are led to believe they have...

back to FO. I am still surprised after reading through these forums for years, just reading, at how many people who have played FO 1&2 but still don't understand that it is much deeper than the ways that they made the combat different, and interaction with characters in the game. The games had a large amount of political references along with the pop-culture stuff. how many of these 'fans' took the time to read the holodisks, or the FO bible for that matter. Form an opinion on something after educating yourself about it first. me play game shoot , yay money....dont nuke ooh////

asshat twitch, whoa

 

[Moving Target]

....

Well, that was 40 seconds of my life gone forever.

I agree with a lot of the other posters- this is a very generic teaser. At least the first one had *something* in it. Hell, it even got me excited for Fallout 3.

Then I started doing research. And played Morrowind, which to me felt like an MMO during the emptiest server time- wandering around, getting randomly attacked by monsters for no reason, and in between doing pointless fetch quests. Ugh.

And- Super Duper Mart? The fek? Beth doesn't grasp this 'retro 50s' thing at all. They just seem to think that slapping 'super' or '-motron' or '-rama' on something makes it retro-50s. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Super markets had NAMES, folks. They were owned by men who wanted their last names plastered AAAALLLL over the place. And NOBODY made a place called 'Super motherfucking Duper Mart.' Lame ass.

Also:

Does this scenario include an uneducated half-insane garbageman posing as the Chef de Cuisine of the hypothetical establishment?

Fixed.

And yes it does.

 

[Bodybag]

My initial thought: "Hey, another Fallout 1 callback. Why not?"

The overiding lasting impression: "Holy shit, is that entirely in-engine? Better than I thought!" (PS: it has a "PC game" look about it o_O)

Not that I'm not enjoying the totally unpredictable responses flying in from left-field or anything, but I have to address one comment:

Well, that was 40 seconds of my life gone forever.

The remainder of that decade spent waiting for a sequel: packed with goodness?

 

[terebikun]

If the Super Duper Mart sells "six packs" of Nuka-Cola, wouldn't they run out pretty quick? Or is that authentic Americanic hyphophobia?

Drive around enough gas stations in America and you'll see many of our convenience stores are theoretically very understocked. But you'd think a copy writer at the ad agency would've caught something like that, punctuation being likely one of the most exciting aspects of their job.

the childish SuperDuperMart commercial I found extremely unappealing and lowbrow.

Childish AND lowbrow? "We have what you need!"? Really? I didn't think the commercial really had enough content to make any impact at all, much less objectionably, but to each their own. Or is it the name? Should it be Atomic Mart or Nuclear Mart or Megaton Mart(!)?

Are they going for the whole retro cereals advertising they're full of sugar thing or a Calvin and Hobbes reference?

Oh my god, thank you! I knew I'd heard of Sugar Bombs somewhere before, and it was bugging the crap out of me.

 

[Dougly]

Oooh I found an interesting tidbit that doens't make the "nuckular katapult" complete rubbish.

The Davey Crockett has been discussed in some detail on this site already.

Long story short: The Davey Crockett was meant to be a long range weapon, whereas this "nuclear catapault" crap in F3 seems to be used at rather close range.

Also, making nuclear explosions a common part of Fallout is just waay out of step with how they were treated in the past two games. Remember - F1 and F2 both only had one nuclear explosion in the entire game. And they destroyed a large area, and were used mainly to "eliminate once and for all" the major enemy that you were facing.

 

[Ranne]

The overiding lasting impression: "Holy shit, is that entirely in-engine?

With absolutely no intention of picking up a fight, when was the last time you played a major PC/Xbox 360/PS3 game? I mean, I saw much better looking titles out there back in early 2007.

Speaking objectively, Fallout 3's graphical engine is nothing to brag about. No shadow support, primitive lightning, no cinematographic effects (depth of field, motion blur, etc), low resolution textures, (seemingly) stiff character animations, and the list goes on and on and on. It's not really that bad, but it's certainly not very good either. I believe the appropriate word is mediocre.

the childish SuperDuperMart commercial I found extremely unappealing and lowbrow.

Childish AND lowbrow?

Yes. Lacking in sophistication and befitting a child. You seem to be more concerned with the quality of my writing skills than with the fact that there is a group of well-paid adult professionals out there who happen to believe that "Super Duper Mart" and "Sugar Bombs" convey appropriate levels of humor and sophistication to be used in a M-rated (again, ages 17 and older) game title.