New Vegas has ruined fallout 3 for me

Earth said:
I agree completely. One thing that would probably have solved a number of the story problems would have been to have no main characters. Write consequences for killing your dad for example. I blew up a town, enslaved people and am a cannibal. Why can't I kill my own father?
That bothered me a lot. I'm usually a goody two shoes, but since I was annoyed by the fact he made me follow him through the whole wasteland, I wanted to kill him badly (and then reload). When I figured out he was immortal, BOY I was annoyed. And more, if I fast traveled instead of running through the wasteland with him, I'd have to wait. Is he really THAT slow?
 
Completely echo earth on FO3. I played that game twice...partly because on my 1st playthrough, I tried to play an evil crazed cannibal that killed everyone in sight (was trying to play a raider - wish you could actually join them). I killed every BOS member I came across....yet still had to join them to fight the Enclave in the end? (ugh).

Made the whole experience convoluted for me. So I made a second stab, only to play a more goodly character, so I could fit in better with the story. It was enjoyable that way, but just felt even less like an RPG, on account that I felt like my character's personality was pre-generated for me (even if indirectly through main quest options.)
 
I always noticed that as well. It's like TLW by nature has to be good. Sure you can bomb megaton, put the FEV in the water, blow up the citadel, kill every living being in every town (save for the invincible ones) but the BoS will still help you fight off the Enclave and be your friend. There's absolutely ZERO consequences.

Just another reason NV wastes FO:3 is that faction system. Hell even if you left the plot as is, 3 would have been marginally better just adding that in. Be evil, the BoS turns against you, thus opening a new ending quest.
 
Same here.
I've played Fallout 3 first and I enjoyed it, then I moved onto Fallout New Vegas and oh god ... I couldn't get back into Fallout 3 for a long time after that.
Still I enjoy every Fallout game ;P
 
The only thing Fallout 3 did for me was get me into Fallout, and by extension, into this site. I won't deny it was instrumental in my gaming 'development', but, in hindsight, it was a really meh game.
 
I played NV first, then went to FO3...couldn't say it was a smooth transition. The Good v. Evil was far too obvious and became bland after a bit into the main story. Also all the little things NV added. Not to say it was a bad game, I haven't played enough of it it make such a statement, but I prefered New Vegas. However I do have thoughts about the main story:

At first I did like Dad's story, how you're forced out of your home and have to make sense of it all. But then it became Help Out the Brotherhood and then I killed the Enclave in a simple sentence that somehow overloaded the supercomputer...it made no sense, it still doesn't make sense to me. It totally went downhill from there.

But what bugs me most, after reading up on F1/F2 lore and setting, and something I hadn't thought until it was brought up, HOW DID THE NATION'S CAPITAL SURVIVE DIRECT NUCLEAR BLASTS? D.C. should of been China's #1 target, NOTHING should of remained. Yet valuable technology and relics survived and most of the buildings still have four walls on them.

At least NV explains you why Vegas wasn't utterly devastated...and according to some maps (not sure if official or not) of the canceled Van Buren, most of that game takes place in Arizona/Utah...very sparsely populated areas, areas where a nuclear attack would not of been likely.
 
I liked fallout 3 better. It has more apocalyptic feeling then NW and I dont care about the story. You can get your standard fate but you can change. Sometime U will do the quests but ur not forced to do them. I just explored and explore in fallout 3 and It was so good. I did the same in fallout nw. Before I could initiate the quest the place was cleared by me lolz, becaouse I was there before I should be there. Fallout 3 made me to try NW... NW didnt disappoint me but I still love fallout 3 :) So much players say that obsidian came in fallout nw and nw is better. I dont think the same. I dont say fallout 3 is better but for me the 2 games are the same. You are a a guy who is wandering the wastelands and writing history with his actions. For me main and side story is just there to make the game have a background and a felling. Try to make some sequence to fallout 1 and 2 becaouse of the fallout 1-2 fans. I think the story is really good behind the game and I dont mean the fallout 3 and NW main questline but the whole story with the war and just the whole. I still like fallout 3's and Nw"s main questline but u know I play fallout to explore and make my courier's fate the best I can. I think roleplaying is much better then just doing what ur said to do. I saw players who said how they beaten the game in 20 hours ... No one cares how fast u could do it. You didnt explore everything, got every rare things and made every side quests like when I played New Vegas I didnt want to end it. I Intentionally tried to avoid to complete the main story. When I saw the last quest's name I was worried that the game will end. These type of games have much replay ability cuz u can side with others and just make other decisions in the whole game and much like that but still theres no beginner feeling. And the best thing in games I like is beginner feeling. Whats not at cod or games like that thats why so much ppl does not loose their interest on the game until they get bored by them. Fallout is a game where you can feel yourself a beginner and u dont know where u need to go, what the places named and what can u find at X and much like that. I dont know why somebody would want to end the game as fast as he can. This game is about roleplaying... you are trying to take decisions what u would take, atleast in the first play. In the first play you dont side X and Y becaouse u want other happens or you know theres a good reward in one of the quest or just having fun with bad karma and like that. Some players just like to live in a better world for a time and try to live in the awesome nuked world. If I would want to die I would want to die in a wasteland like in fallout. Some ppl are like how bad is it that ppl are suffering in the wastelands. So much ppl died, there are mutated things and tribes and everyone kills each other but I would enjoy that world. I always thought about what life the real homeless ppl have. Who are making their own house from junks in the woods and they are living, not that good like others but they do. They are survivors lolz. I dont want to be homeless, but It would be good to be Bear Grylls.
 
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