NFL 2009

It's hard to hate someone you pity. :mrgreen:

Seriously though, I don't hate the Vikings as much as I pity the bitter, manic-depressive behavior of their fans. True story: I was watching the local tv news out of the Twin Cities the other day, and they were interviewing Vikings fans at Joe Sensor's sports bar. One guy said that when he heard they signed Favre he got butterflies in his stomach like the first time he kissed a girl. Imagine what the come-down is going to be like from that if Favre doesn't play well.

Some of my best friends are Vikings fans, so I know what I'm talking about: somewhat-overweight, semi-intoxicated scandinavians with painted faces wearing purple tiger-striped Zubaz and fluffy horned helmets. :P

Realistically speaking, I think they look pretty good this year - but so do the Packers and the Bears. It's a little early for butterflies in the stomach for anyone.
 
UniversalWolf said:
somewhat-overweight, semi-intoxicated scandinavians
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Kind of how I pictured Packers fans too.

purple tiger-striped Zubaz
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Dear god say it ain't so. Those things were uber-tacky in the 80s, please tell me people don't actually still wear these in public.

Realistically speaking, I think they look pretty good this year - but so do the Packers and the Bears.
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Will be an interesting battle between those three. I'd say all have a legit shot at winning the division. Be fun to watch how it shakes out. I'd put my money on Packers, but I can see Cutler giving Chitown a major offensive boost. And the Vikes, it all hinges on Favre, he did start 9-3 last year for the Jets in a foreign offensive system, with a Stalinist coach and no preparation - then he faded completely and led the league in INTs. Again, Peter King (picked Chicago to go to SB) and all those jerkoffs can prognosticate and pontificate all they want, but speculation is specualtion and at the end of the day it's the players on the field who decide.
 
I was under the impression most Packer fans have a stronger hate for the Bears and Cowboys, and Vikes fans like myself just like to believe we have some big epic rivalry.
 
the Boys we hate because fuck the Boys; their hedonistic franchise is all about hype, money, and flair. can you even find the game? hole in the stadium so "god" can watch? fuck off. Da Bears rivalry while definitely old and classic, has faded with time. i'm 32 and for as long as i can remember we've hated your team with every ounce of our cheese-eating souls.
 
BarackSays said:
I was under the impression most Packer fans have a stronger hate for the Bears and Cowboys, and Vikes fans like myself just like to believe we have some big epic rivalry.
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Yeah, that's true, but it's a pretty good 3-way rivalry with Green Bay, Chicago, and Minnesota. Maybe someday Detriot will decide to get involved.

Cimmerian Nights said:
Kind of how I pictured Packers fans too.
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TRUE!

If you want to see some classic mockery of Green Bay fans, watch Mystery Science Theater 3000. Hilarious. That show was made in Minneapolis.

Vikings fans do Zubaz way more than Packer fans though. :mrgreen:

P.S.

Chilly Wonka:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/alauson/willy-wonka-in-chocolate-factory.jpg
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
Maphusio said:
epicest pre-season game ever.
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Is that like the best non-alcoholic beer ever? Week 4 of preseason is wholly superfluous.
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I disagree, preseason is quite exciting as you get to see the former collage players and free agents make their marks. Often times those marks blow our expectations out of the water.

You also get to see some weird frackin' shit you would not normally see. This is the first season Seattle went undefeated for their pre-season which is an extra shot in the arm for those fans.

So I see pre-season as an ice cold Hacke Beck w/ a splash of vodka on the side -when someone isn't looking.
 
Maphusio said:
I disagree, preseason is quite exciting as you get to see the former collage players and free agents make their marks. Often times those marks blow our expectations out of the water.

You also get to see some weird frackin' shit you would not normally see.
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Like a fake punt resulting in a touchdown by the punter. Awesome stuff that was.
 
Wacky bloopers and gadget plays huh? Scoring exhibition points in an exhibition game. Practice squad vs. Practice squad.

It's dryhumping.

Talking week 4. Realistically how many roster spots are still open on the 53 man roster? 2? 3? If that? 4th string HB? 3rd string QB? I'm nonplussed, and evidently so is the NFL as they are planning to scrap the 4th preseason game since it is a scrub fest.

And let's not put any stock into preseason records. They're hardly indicative of anything.

Anyway, the strokejob is over, bring on the starters.
 
week 3 is great. week 4 is nothing more than an exhibition game to see which 3rd stringers get cut.

week 4 should be abolished.
 
week 3 is great.
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The first couple series are.

Talk is the elimination of week 4 preseason will be part of expanding the regular season. I'm all for that, hopefully a 17th game won't be too taxing physically.


Richard Seymour to Raiders for a 1st rounder. Shocker. Hate to see him leave, but he is aged, beat up and asking for too much money. Happened to Lawyer Milloy, Willie McGinnest, Ty Law, Deion Branch, Vrabel etc. etc. again hated to see them leave, but in Bill we trust. The Pats have proven they know when to cut the cord, none of those guys were worth the big contracts they got elsewhere. Belichik is a cold, calculating, shrewd motherfucker, and he's set this franchise up for some long-term, sustainable success with the way he hoards and manages draft picks. They always operate from a position of power. Now they got Floyd Reese in personnel, nice moves the past 6 months. This guy is actually an upgrade from Pioli.

Taking advantage of the Raiders yet again with another sweetheart deal from Uncle Al. That's the beauty of dementia, he doesn't remember the tuck rule game, the Moss trade, none of it. Al, your supposed to hate the Pats for sending your franchise into a so far unrecoverable tailspin. Seymour grumbles for a new contract and he gets sent to the NFL equivalent of Siberia. Enjoy that new contract.

Most importantly it's an awesome precedent established by BB - players get nothing for holding out or requesting re-negotiations. Ever. You sign a contract, you honor your contract or you pound fucking sand.
These other teams look like fools letting players bend them over mid-contract. Weak, soft front offices that just embolden these shithead agents and crybaby players, they perpetuate this shit with their desperation moves.
 
Yes, fuck over your star players, sign of a great team philosophy right there.
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
Taking advantage of the Raiders yet again with another sweetheart deal from Uncle Al.
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:lol:

dude is one of my favorite people ever. just read this at a packer forum i hang out at:

"Wow, two trades in one day? Source says Al Davis just dealt his 2012 first-rounder for a sack of marbles and the Brooklyn Bridge."
 
You forget the best part: it's a Raiders 1st rounder - that's a top 3 pick dude! Pats haven't had a top 20 pick since when?

Sander said:
Yes, fuck over your star players, sign of a great team philosophy right there.
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When they refuse to honor contracts they will never live up to? When you need to resign them as free agents or get nothing for them at the end of the year? When you need to resign other dudes with brighter futures (Wilfork, Warren) O-linemen)?
Star? Maybe in 2005, he hasn't played a full season since. It'd be more shrewd to overpay an aged, injury prone guy with a fat multiyear contract that he's career will never justify going forward? I just listed 5-6 stars they dealt that got their money elsewhere and who's careers disappeared in smoke.

Name me a bad personnel deal the Pats have made in the last 8 years?
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
When they refuse to honor contracts they will never live up to? When you need to resign them as free agents or get nothing for them at the end of the year? When you need to resign other dudes with brighter futures (Wilfork, Warren) O-linemen)?
Star? Maybe in 2005, he hasn't played a full season since. It'd be more shrewd to overpay an aged, injury prone guy with a fat multiyear contract that he's career will never justify going forward? I just listed 5-6 stars they dealt that got their money elsewhere and who's careers disappeared in smoke.

Name me a bad personnel deal the Pats have made in the last 8 years?
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Missing the point.
This:
Cimmerian Nights said:
Most importantly it's an awesome precedent established by BB - players get nothing for holding out or requesting re-negotiations. Ever.
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isn't great. It's disgusting. Hypothetically: you've improved greatly over the past year, made awesome contributions to the team, and you're stuck with a shitty contract because the team philosophy is 'fuck you you have a contract'?
 
Sander said:
isn't great. It's disgusting. Hypothetically: you've improved greatly over the past year, made awesome contributions to the team, and you're stuck with a shitty contract because the team philosophy is 'fuck you you have a contract'?
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First of all, any contract should be geared towards what you're going to do, not what's already in the history books.
Secondly, if the contract is so shitty to you, why did you ever agree to it in the first place? Don't tell me douchebags like Rosenhaus and Boras aren't the impetus behind shit like this. And their actions are motivated by one and only one thing. So you smell the end of your career coming and want your last big contract, great, but if the team doesn't think you'll live up to it, you're going to have to look elsewhere. The Ra

If the Pats hadn't won 100 games, 3 Superbowls, and gone to 5 championship games this decade you might have a point. But I fail to see how this move hurts them. This all started when the same chicken littles came out after they cut Lawyer Milloy and he summarily went on to smoke them like 33-3 in the season opener. Pats are dead, they hate their coach, Corey Dillon is a malcontent, Randy Moss is a lockerroom cancer. blah blah blah.

I find it hard to question their methods when they've directly led to so much success.
I think it's the Raiders you should be questioning here, and why a franchise like this can drag a team, a city, a division into the mire. The Raiders are what's really bad for the NFL's image.

So isn't Roidy Smurf:http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10031914/Cops:-Merriman-accused-of-choking-Tila-Tequila
You just can't make this shit up.
 
poorly managed franchises like the Raiders and Lions aren't just bad for "image" they're bad for the economy of entire states, let alone the NFL as a whole.
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
First of all, any contract should be geared towards what you're going to do, not what's already in the history books.
Secondly, if the contract is so shitty to you, why did you ever agree to it in the first place? Don't tell me douchebags like Rosenhaus and Boras aren't the impetus behind shit like this. And their actions are motivated by one and only one thing. So you smell the end of your career coming and want your last big contract, great, but if the team doesn't think you'll live up to it, you're going to have to look elsewhere.
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This is completely not what I'm talking about.
Okay, let's put it like this: rookie gets signed to a shitty contract, 'cause he's a rookie. Rookie turns out to be a huge player. Team tells rookie: fuck you you have a contract. Rookie tells Pats: fuck you I'm worth way more than this. Rookie forces trade. Pats are fucked.

Don't think a player is worth what he's asking? Fine, then don't pay it. But to make 'you have a contract fuck you' a general philosophy is absolutely retarded. And frankly, I don't think that's actually what they're doing, I think that's what you're reading into it. They're not actually going to get star players go just because of some stupid principle.

Cimmerian Nights said:
If the Pats hadn't won 100 games, 3 Superbowls, and gone to 5 championship games this decade you might have a point. But I fail to see how this move hurts them. This all started when the same chicken littles came out after they cut Lawyer Milloy and he summarily went on to smoke them like 33-3 in the season opener. Pats are dead, they hate their coach, Corey Dillon is a malcontent, Randy Moss is a lockerroom cancer. blah blah blah.

I find it hard to question their methods when they've directly led to so much success.
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You really think that everything they do is essential to their success and impeccable?
God, you're such a homer.
Cimm said:
I think it's the Raiders you should be questioning here, and why a franchise like this can drag a team, a city, a division into the mire. The Raiders are what's really bad for the NFL's image.
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Ehm, I can't do both?
 
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