Nine Inch Nails – Ghosts

I love this; it is great to see how we all have an overlap of interests it really brings it back into the whole sense of a community we call NMA.

The art design stems from Industrial art and music. I mean, how can you like Fallout enough to register at a fansite, and not appreciate Nails?


BTW, omg Flick looks amazing. Looks like time hasn't been to hard on him.
 
Dopemine Cleric said:
I love this; it is great to see how we all have an overlap of interests it really brings it back into the whole sense of a community we call NMA.

The art design stems from Industrial art and music. I mean, how can you like Fallout enough to register at a fansite, and not appreciate Nails?.

How can you like fallout enough to register as a fan site & not know that fallout's music is mostly tribal ambient music & NOT industrial. Next time keep your assumptions for yourself to the love I have for fallout. Ironically one of Mark Morgan's song on the compilation of SAW II (Selected Ambient Works Volume II) :-) There are some Industrial references in fallouts music but only so rarely.

Von Drunky your are right this has indeed been a nice exchange, but all good thing has to end, when cheap shot comments like Dopemine Cleric appears, you know the thread has reached its end...at least for me.
 
Try reading the post RLH, he didn't say that Fallout's music was industrial but that the art design stems from industrial, which I agree with, to an extent.

Industrial (in it's baser form) is all about using ambient sounds (frequently of industry) and non-musical instruments to produce music. Fallout's art design does a similar thing by using a landscape of a fallen ruined civilization to create a desolate atmosphere.

OT: Ghosts is awesome, there are a few flops but considering the sheer volume a few had to be sub par. There are quite a few brilliant pieces as well. I can imagine it being used as a soundtrack to a zombie movie.
 
RUN_LIKE_HELL said:
What the...Charlie did an amazing job with Saw III score, he composed all the music & played all the instrument .

Okay, but that doesn't make it good?

Again, I'm not trying to slight Clouser's work or his abilities as a musician, but it just bores me, and I think comparing him to someone as established and credible as Reznor is kind of ridiculous. I'm repeating myself, so I'm just gonna cut this short.

You probably don't know this because some OST that come to North America have nothing to do with the original motion picture soundtrack.

Only for the saw series he composed 9 track for saw 1, 56 tracks for Saw 2 & composed many complete scores for TV series & other films.

That's pretty pretty insulting. I'm well aware that there's a difference between an OST and the "soundtracks" you find at Wal-Mart. Clouser has done tons of songs and tons of work for different films and television series, all of which has been okay. Most of his work sounds essentially the same and it's kind of cliche and boring to me.
 
I've bought the download version, and I kinda liked it.
It does sound good, but it gets ambient too often.
So my appreciation shows that I only listened to it once.

With Teeth: It was weird when I first started to listen to it.
I thought Trent gone pop, or something.
Then came the second song, third, and forth, ..., and it got stronger and stronger. So by the end i really liked it.
Upon repeated listening, I didn't even notice the mellow start.

But Year Zero kicked ass.
He went back to really raw, and the sound-scapes he built are genius.


BTW, has anyone got the Saul Wiliams album too?
It has the same distribution policy as Ghost.
It's practically rap music, with Trent as a producer. Saul's claim is that he wanted a sound similar to old Public Enemy with the Bomb Squad production.
Some of the songs could have been easily fitted on the Year Zero album. And if you heard the remixes, you already know his voice.
Actually, I think he's previous self-titled album is much better, but only because this one was kinda experimental. There was supposed to be concept behind it, but I couldn't really see it, as the songs didn't come together as a whole album for me.
 
syllogz said:
BTW, has anyone got the Saul Wiliams album too?
It has the same distribution policy as Ghost.
It's practically rap music, with Trent as a producer. Saul's claim is that he wanted a sound similar to old Public Enemy with the Bomb Squad production.
Some of the songs could have been easily fitted on the Year Zero album. And if you heard the remixes, you already know his voice.
Actually, I think he's previous self-titled album is much better, but only because this one was kinda experimental. There was supposed to be concept behind it, but I couldn't really see it, as the songs didn't come together as a whole album for me.

Saul is a really brilliant dude. I've had the pleasure of seeing him a few times, the last time was when he was opening for NIN. Great music and a terrific live show. The fact that a single black dude on stage with little to no backup could captivate a pretty large venue comprised mostly of kids who were solely there for nine inch nails was astonishing and impressive.
 
RUN_LIKE_HELL said:
Dopemine Cleric said:
I love this; it is great to see how we all have an overlap of interests it really brings it back into the whole sense of a community we call NMA.

The art design stems from Industrial art and music. I mean, how can you like Fallout enough to register at a fansite, and not appreciate Nails?.

How can you like fallout enough to register as a fan site & not know that fallout's music is mostly tribal ambient music & NOT industrial. Next time keep your assumptions for yourself to the love I have for fallout. Ironically one of Mark Morgan's song on the compilation of SAW II (Selected Ambient Works Volume II) :-) There are some Industrial references in fallouts music but only so rarely.


Ummm...

I'm almost gagging on your stupidity and your flaming, debasing ego.




Dirty Little Grasshopper Wrote:


Try reading the post RLH, he didn't say that Fallout's music was industrial but that the art design stems from industrial, which I agree with, to an extent.

Industrial (in it's baser form) is all about using ambient sounds (frequently of industry) and non-musical instruments to produce music. Fallout's art design does a similar thing by using a landscape of a fallen ruined civilization to create a desolate atmosphere.


Arg, he was mine.
 
Since there are a couple of NIN fans her, what about you name your favorite song, with some explanation?
If you can't put it down to one, then name the first 3, also explain why.


My absolute favorite:
The Downward Spiral (the Bottom), from Halo 10 - Further Down the Spiral

The music after the initial fall for me is the musical equivalent of Hieronymus Bosch's tryptich, mostly the right part of it, representing Hell.
Here's the image at wiki: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/GardenED.jpg
 
I don't really share your vision on the downward Spiral (The Bottom) with that picture. But your entitled to your opinion. I always thought it was about suicide or maybe a failed suicided attempted where your stuck in a coma and all you see is the the deepest shade of mushroom blue.

My favorite song changes based on my mood but one of my all time favorites would be "Hurt" it reminds me of a relationship that should have went a different way which i cant forget no matter how much i try and since then the girl changed into completely different person. Which means I can no longer be with the person I realized later i loved. Since then I pretty much get into relationships I stop caring about after 2 weeks and end up hurting the girl. This has got to be the most Emoest thing i ever wrote on the Internet to date.
 
Let me preface this by saying everything from Broken. Broken is like one long, intense, loud, fucked up song. It's an amazingly complete record from start to finish (granted, it's only an EP).

Aside from that record, I can barely narrow it down to three songs, but here are the songs I get stuck in my head most frequently:

The Big Come Down (The Fragile): There are some beautifully chaotic sounds in this piece, but I especially love the guitar work. One of my favorite NIN songs lyrically and Trent's voice sounds terrific on it (that chorus... FUCK). Also extraordinarily catchy.

The Great Destroyer (Year Zero): The last minute and a half of this song can only be described as "what the fuck, that is the coolest thing I have ever heard." Fits really well within the context of the album and seeing it performed live was a treat.

Terrible Lie (Pretty Hate Machine): The first nine inch nails song I heard and therefore the most iconic for me. There's definitely a reason it has been played at every live show the band has ever done. It's the perfect live into song and the additions they've made to it since 1989 have all been awesome. Nothing like hearing everyone in the band shout "HEY GOD" then Trent asking Him for an apology to get me fucking stoked. Amazingly simple song, but man, it's terrific.
 
RUN_LIKE_HELL said:
(...) Ironically one of Mark Morgan's song on the compilation of SAW II (Selected Ambient Works Volume II) :-)

It's not his song though, two or three other songs from SAW II found their onto the Fallout soundtrack. And at least one Brian Eno track (Alternative 3), God knows what else.
 
I have several favourites but these are the songs I keep coming back to no matter what :

-The Big Come Down : that syncoped rythm, these sonorities, the guitar "riff", and that catchy chorus. Best song he has ever done in my opinion.

-Somewhat Damaged : same pattern over and over again, filling itself with hate. And I also can relate to the lyrics and scream them whenever I feel the need to.

-Leaving Hope : a beautiful haunting piece off "Still", breaks my heart whenever I already feel sad. That probably makes me an emo but I don't care.
 
Malky said:
With Teeth is pretty incredible, I don't see what you guys are complaining about. It's not his best work, but it definitely brought him out of a funk and brought some progress to a stagnant band. A lot of the songs are terrific (especially in context of the album and live).

I agree, I love that album. There is only maybe one or two songs I skip.
 
Head Like A Hole: Is probably the catchiest song ever written. The old days of NIN are hit-and-miss for me personally, but this is a definant hit. Though massively overplayed on the radio, this song pretty much captures the aggressive angst of the early 90's industrial scene. The whole songs like what happens when you send Devo, Skinny Puppy, and David Bowie to hell with sex gimps.


The Perfect Drug: Hits me personally for some reason. This song proves that Trent Reznor is a master composer, the variety of samples and instruments used here creates a frantic, gothic feeling while still sounding industrial. The lyrics at the end are really simple, but good. Can't really explain why personally here, so just listen to the damn song.


Hurt: I don't even think I need to explain why this is one of my favorites. Many lonely nights spent under dull lighting, without enough caffeine cigarettes or people to call to tame the beast. Sex drive gone, will gone. Yeah... ect.


The Day The World Went Away: Nihilistic noise at it's finest. Such an atmosphere. Conveys feeling of melting. Melting like the little bitch you are.



Thats 4, but that doesn't even do it justice. Tomorrow I might change my mind and actually listen to the Year Zero album and think it's the best. IDK, if your not familiar with Nails or any similar band that has pushed the artform in this way I can't explain to you why "I" this and "You Should" that and "Because".
 
Have only listened to a few of the tracks online so far but so far I love it. Just trying to track down a way to email them because I live overseas and am wondering if I order the CD's if they'll ship over to my side of the world.
 
They ship. I ordered my CD a while back. Should be here soon.
 
Standard copies shipped today, the deluxe copies ship on the 1st and if you order it now it'll ship on the 15th. Shipping to random places in the world shouldn't be a problem.
 
I think fans of NIN, and in particular the Ghosts album, would be interested in the following information.



[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=lYDUk0ESwt4[/youtube]

To expand the idea of the "Ghosts" project, we're inviting anyone and everyone to create visuals to accompany the album's music. In a few months, we'll be gathering the entries we feel are particularly exceptional and highlighting them. There are no rules to this - be as creative as you like. Create a music video, or a short film, or something completely abstract. Use only one track from the album, or use multiple tracks. Only one caveat: Incorporating copyrighted materials (clips from movies, music by other artists, etc) into your video might limit our ability to feature it in the future.

To submit your video, join the Ghosts group at http://www.youtube.com/group/ninghosts and add your video to the group. Good luck, and enjoy.


Fallout theme maybe? I don't know, just an idea to throw out there.
 
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