NMA: Fallout 3 review

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Brother None, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Public

    Public Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    May 18, 2006
    What? :D

    BTW, I've heard an advert in the game shot few weeks, days (can't feel what the day is today) about Fallout 3. An American one, so it was dump :D

    It was like, with very American voice over (tough and deep)

    "...You are the only one who can find out, why he [your father] left the Vault."

    and then like a SMASH! of super sound effects, with crappy, epic Inon's music soudntrack, and something on the lines:

    "...explore the world after nuclear war! Face many dangers of the wasteland, like: Super Mutants, giant ants, and...some other cool stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff."

    The "stuff" word fades down, and on the end:

    "In Fallout 3!!"
     
  2. TheRatKing

    TheRatKing Vault Dweller

    702
    Oct 7, 2008
    Good review, I liked the little quotes before each section. They made me :facepalm: .

    And I believe Bethesda did just come up with cool shit and implement it. In some of the promo videos, Todd and friends talk about how they come up with interesting ideas and add them into the game. I don't think that they realize that this causes a lack of cohesion and makes the game world full of gobbledy gook.

    This is not entirely true. Since F3 shares gameplay elements from Oblivion, kiting is back! VATing someones legs causes them to be kited(?) easier. Nothing like backpedaling from mole rats when they have crippled legs eh?
     
  3. mountaingoat

    mountaingoat First time out of the vault

    79
    Oct 30, 2008
    Quite fair review and a good read.
    Very eloquently put points/observations, and with a good sense of humor also. :)

    I Loled on the exploding cars bit and the possible explanation of the nuclear holocaust, and yet, the laugh becomes a bitter one as you think of the opportunity Beth misses - mainly due to game designing decisions- to give us a sequel more close to the originals.
    I agree with the majority of the points such as, on one hand, awesomeness on the graphical aspect ,very good as an exploring action/ adventure RPG, but on the other , weak writing, verisimilitude broken, stodgy NPC’s, shallow main quest, and have to add something more.
    Doesn’t anyone feel most of the times when exploring ruined buildings, like playing a horror – resident evil type - game with all the gorebags and mutilated limbs that scattered all over the place? Lots of gore, lots of blood, the fallout spirit is lost in the translation.

    All in all, a very well written review ,kudos to you, keep it up.
     
  4. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    Yeah, if he's so fucking smart why doesn't he design his own RPG, huh?

    Somebody has to hold Bethesda's feet to the fire, because this game has some gaping holes in it, and the majority of reviewers are only too eager to out superlative one another in describing how great it is.

    The criticism you hear from VD now will probably turn into a cacaphony once the shininess wears off and all the novelty of the cool gimicks has been played out. Just like Oblivion. No sustain, no substance, weak RPG foundation. To be tossed aside when the next shiny thing comes along. Bubblegum McRPG.

    I want Rosh's review. :twisted:
     
  5. UmbrellaMaster

    UmbrellaMaster First time out of the vault

    32
    May 31, 2007
    One thing that bothered me that I seem to not find in most reviews are the horrible hotkey's on the PC version. Instead of hitting the same 2 keys to get in and out of menus, some require you to hit X, others E, others Tab, sometimes A. While it's a minor gripe, it seems like it's just another one of those design flaws in the menus that adds to the unbearableness of huge text, limited information inventory and data screens.

    All in all a pretty good review though. I personally didn't mind VATS, as I found the FPS mechanic to be utterly broken and stupid (shooting invisible walls, enemies darting / teleporting around making them impossible to follow with any mortal cursor, etc).
     
  6. Ureshi

    Ureshi It Wandered In From the Wastes

    101
    Aug 23, 2007
    What?? no mention of the magic potions...? err sorry... the drugs...

    Great Review

    :clap:
     
  7. Sicblades

    Sicblades Antediluvian as Feck
    Orderite

    Aug 28, 2008
    I couldn't help but notice how those formulas are deemed "too complex" for "RPG'ers". Good review either way :)
     
  8. VDweller

    VDweller Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    306
    Oct 31, 2005
    Game Informer, Sep 2004:

    "While only in preproduction stages at the moment, the game will use the same technology as Oblivion, and is planned as another open-ended roleplaying game. This game however, will be decidedly darker. Imagine a survival horror-esque version of the Fallout world, with all the things you expect out of the series still intact, but with deeper, more immersive gameplay..."
     
  9. generalissimofurioso

    generalissimofurioso The Hole Time Orderite

    Jun 17, 2007
    Man.

    I remember reading that blurb back then.

    Much like the prophecies from horror movies, it was ignored until the monster jumped out of the lake and killed the sexy teens.
     
  10. Paul_cz

    Paul_cz Mildly Dipped

    515
    Jun 11, 2008
    Great review.

    Eventhough I agree with most of Vince's point (as I did with the Oblivion one) I still love the game very much.
     
  11. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    Incorrect. There are 85 POIs. I know because I took the Explorer perk and it said "locations found: 85", count 'em if you want but it's what your PipBoy stats tell you with the Explorer perk. That doesn't mean there's 85 locations, that means there are 85 locations that Bethesda deem worthy of marking POIs. That's the most exact number you'll get until the Vault fills up its list.

    Also, Verum, no offense, but don't you think you might be taken a little bit more serious if you didn't open with ad hominem attempts to try to discredit a well-known old-time fan of Fallout for "not having played the game".

    I also disagree with the VATS bit, but that's my lowered standards for you; I'm so used to RPGs having horrible combat systems I just don't mind anymore, and VATS is quite ok.

    It's also pretty far from challenging. But people seem to be having experiences all over the chart on that, I suspect it is due to level scaling which kind of reacts unpredictably to how you play the game. I went through parts of DC pretty early so that might have locked my levels in low, hence my easy playthrough.

    They said it's built in the crater of an unexploded bomb in pre-released interviews. I talked to the old lady you mention but don't recall her offering a counterpoint, but if she does it looks like Bethesda came back on this retarded point.

    They're dubbing them here too, which is just stupid, anyone with any market knowledge of teens in the Netherlands knows you don't dub Dutch ads. Ah well.

    What do you mean? The review kind of skips over it, granted, but if you were to have the question "I'm looking for a Fallout review and only that, is this game for me?" the answer in this review is a resounding "no"

    Actually, several Bethesda devs do lurk on our news forum and I'm pretty sure they read some of our articles.

    :patriot:

    Yeah, the PC porting is shoddy at best. Dunno why Vince didn't mention it. Vince? I didn't put a word limit on him that's for sure, but he might've felt he was running a bit verbose.
     
  12. Mentats

    Mentats First time out of the vault

    75
    Jun 18, 2007
    Wait, what was the original topic of discussion? Ah who the hell cares. What the hell is a Mirelurk?

    About the Deathclaw.
    Regards.
     
  13. TheFlyingBuddha

    TheFlyingBuddha It Wandered In From the Wastes

    109
    Oct 29, 2008
    I think this is a fairly solid review, and the "amusement park" comparison is more or less the perfect point to make about this game. The game is 100% amusement park and 0% "(speculative) historical recreation." If it had struck something like 75/25 even (some larger settlements with farms being near the top of the list, along with less weird raider/supermutant keeping so many dead bodies around) it would have been a far better ride.

    Oh, and an ending to the main quest that didn't suck so hard. I didn't even mind the majority of the quest itself, that was the worst part for me. Everyone was hating on it and I didn't see it, and then, BAM, the ending. :?
     
  14. TonyM19

    TonyM19 First time out of the vault

    38
    May 24, 2003
    Pretty fair review.

    Calling it Fallout 3 is the only thing that puts my back up about it.
     
  15. >P&A<

    >P&A< First time out of the vault

    27
    Jul 16, 2007
    Strange, doing the exact same thing worked for me. While the guy's head danced tango with the body all over the studio (great physics, beth) I heard a message on the GNR from some girl that, well, 3 dog's dead, and that's it.

    On topic, a great read. It does feel like he would rather write a small book about it. Oh, and considering skills ("repair/hacking/lockpick = good, ok") - I have trouble determining if this was his direct point or heavy sarcasm. Help, anyone?

    I also encourage everybody to view Verum's criticism.

    P.S. When I first ran the game, it took as much as one click to determine the genuinity and resemblance to cannon (and we all know what was the result of that check). After which I just played it like "this other postapoc game" and actually enjoyed the process. But, sadly, the replayability is close to zero.
     
  16. TwinkieGorilla

    TwinkieGorilla This ghoul has seen it all

    Oct 19, 2007
    it's also one of today's hot topics of discussion at the BS forums, as it was posted there too. i know for a fact devs have seen it, as i've seen their blue-tinted names as "users browsing this thread".
     
  17. DOF_power

    DOF_power First time out of the vault

    91
    Oct 29, 2008
    Where did my previous comments/posts go ?!
     
  18. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    Like I just said, they're in the Vats, as it was a trolling comment about fans you made. If you have a problem with strikes contact an admin. You have clearly not read the rules. Read the rules and follow them or you won't last much longer.
     
  19. Briosafreak

    Briosafreak Lived Through the Heat Death

    Dec 18, 2003
    I think you're onto something there.

    Also good review.
     
  20. Eyenixon

    Eyenixon Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 11, 2008
    Catch a joke?