Obsidian Strikes Back with The Outer Worlds

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by TorontoReign, Oct 30, 2019.

  1. Jabberwok

    Jabberwok Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Jun 7, 2008
    Thanks. I mean, it seems like both Mass Effect AND Outer Worlds just used the formula established by KoTOR. A franchise that both Bioware and Obsidian worked on. Though Bioware established it with the first game, obviously.
  2. DirtyOldShoe

    DirtyOldShoe Some kind of lucky

    Dec 15, 2015
    I was wasn't overly excited when I saw how it looked in game, Love FO:2 and NV and see no comparison.
    I could only play it for 8 hours and had to call it quits, uninstalled.
    Brilliant idea for a franchise.
    Too much of the same assets being reused.
    Not an open world game, but more of a mutli mini sandbox game.
    Access to a spaceship seems really static and unimpressive.
    Didn't care about any of the factions, builds, weapons and the marauders are just template hostiles, really uninspired.
    Though I am happy that people seem to love it. Maybe Obsidian will have enough money to get an engine of their own now? I'm sick of Unreal and limited modding.
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  3. Dinghy

    Dinghy Irish Traveler

    Dec 8, 2019
    if you look at it like Outer Worlds == Fallout 3
    then microsoft will fund a more hardcore RPG by them next eg. Outer Worlds 2 == New Vegas
    although looking at it through this prism is probably hard for people who are very cynical. if you think New Vegas is trash and deserves to rot (because of whatever jaded beliefs you hold yourself to) then it’s not really a glaring review to say one day Outer Worlds can strive to emulate NV.
  4. SquidWard

    SquidWard Pirate and Bankrobber oTO Orderite

    Jun 1, 2018
    Ehhh what? I really have doubts about TOW being like New Vegas and I have doubts about any potential sequel being like New Vegas either.

    And I can understand why someone would hate New Vegas. It's not that big of a deal dude.
  5. Jabberwok

    Jabberwok Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Jun 7, 2008
    The gap between Fallout 3 and New Vegas is because those games are made by different people at a different company. I wouldn't expect a second Outer Worlds, made by the same people at the same company, to be comparable.
  6. Jogre

    Jogre So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 25, 2015
    I tried playing Outer Worlds recently and felt a bit underwhelmed.

    The intro sequence with those creepy laughing lizards was cool, I like how it introduces the Bullet Time mechanics, and the walk through the canyon was quite fun. I like how it draws parallels to being on this alien world with the alien society of Edgewater.

    By the time I got to the botanical gardens, I ended up feeling a little underwhelmed.

    Doesn't really strike that whole "We're literally on another planet' vibe well enough. I mean, I like some of the lore, like about how Primals have that weird skin thing, but when we're trying to set something on another planet, I feel like you could have more diversity with the wildlife, or else some really just out there stuff that just defies our puny Earth logic. A setting about a literal alien world shouldn't be too grounded in reality IMO.

    I know this is too early to say this, but also having the first quest have you choose to starve either the Deserters or Edgewater seems a little bit too jamming the central conflict in your face.

    Like, what was great about New Vegas for instance, was how the entire game wasn't just the story of the NCR and Caesar's Legion, how the internal politics of all the various tribes of the Mojave all tied in to the major conflict, but it wasn't a two sided blanket war.

    I may be wrong about this, but it seems like the entire game is just going to be corporates vs deserters, and that's not necessarily a bad premise but I kinda would rather a more fleshed out world that didn't seem like it existed entirely for a singular conflict.

    Has anyone played enough of this to suggest whether or not I can keep going?
  7. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Not Gollum Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    Was it better than Fallout 4?
  8. Jogre

    Jogre So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 25, 2015
    I mean, I actually stuck with Fallout 4 till the end, but I guess that's more to do with me being more stubborn back then.

    Outer Worlds IMO is simply underwhelming, it builds up your imagination and then fails to deliver on a cool premise. Fallout 4 on the other hand has no idea what it's actually trying to do.
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  9. Jabberwok

    Jabberwok Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Jun 7, 2008
    "it builds up your imagination and then fails to deliver on a cool premise."
    KotOR 2 flashbacks....
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  10. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Not Gollum Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    Man KotOR 2 was great on console. I can see how PC Master Race back then might have thought it was shit, but I had a fucking Xbox, and that was one of my favorite RPG's of all time up to that point. Playing it now not so much.
  11. Jabberwok

    Jabberwok Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Jun 7, 2008
    I really liked it, and I think I did play it on console. But the whole final section of the game always struck me as rushed and empty compared to the rest. It felt like an epilogue that had nothing to say, preceded by a whole level of generic rooms of enemies, and no companions to talk to. I could never compare it favorably to the end of the first game, or even the previous level of the second.

    I've tried and failed several times to go back to both of those games. They feel dated in a particular way that doesn't make them fun to revisit.
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  12. Jogre

    Jogre So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 25, 2015
    Ah yeah, where it builds up that you have a major ending choice as to whether or not you blow up the planet, and how it will affect the galaxy. Doesn't tell you what that even means, and then blows up the planet regardless of what you actually do.

    KOTOR 2 was great, but fucking hell man, that ending kills it.
  13. Dinghy

    Dinghy Irish Traveler

    Dec 8, 2019
    The story made sense and it was fun to shoot things. Fallout 4 didn’t even have that.
  14. Negativity

    Negativity Take a dirt nap

    Oct 19, 2017
    No it wasn't.
  15. Sir Gravy of Megaton

    Sir Gravy of Megaton Destroyer of Smoothskins

    Feb 4, 2020
    Obsidian has released quality games over the years, and the Outer Worlds is no different. i have no had more fun running around slaying baddies in a FPS RPG since... HA, New Vegas itself! i did quite enjoy Fallout 4, don't get me wrong, but i struggle to qualify it as a RPG... regardless, i'm glad OE is able to continue to make games due to being saved by Microsoft.

    i may get heat for this (especially being a new user and all), but Fallout 76 is not a bad game at all. i haven't had more fun playing with friends in a long time. the game is gorgeous... the only bugs i've encountered are floating objects (including corpses which is pretty funn tbh!). Bethesda made a lot of mistakes handling the hateboners people tried to stick in their asses after the release of 76, but the reality is the game doesn't suck, to me at least, and the circlejerking madness needs to end.
  16. SquidWard

    SquidWard Pirate and Bankrobber oTO Orderite

    Jun 1, 2018
    That second statement is worse than the first one. You can like 76 but you can't convince anyone here that it's good. It's really not. As I've said in other threads, it's practically the same experience as many other games (see: any survival game if you want the inventory management, any MMO or MMO-lite if you want the build optimization and grind) just with a Fallout skin and the crafting and settlement system of Fallout 4. That's not really appealing to people who were looking for a Fallout RPG or even something that respectfully moved Fallout's world forward in time (like New Vegas).
  17. Norzan

    Norzan Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Apr 7, 2017
    Oh lord, another of these. Wondering when another one was gonna show up.

    Specifically trying to trigger anyone here with false statements like "Fallout 3 is greater than New Vegas" or "Fallout 76 isn't bad at all" because he has to know the reputation of this site for heavily criticizing Fallout 3 and 76 (the latter funnily enough has been trashed way more outside of the site). Can't wait for him to enter in arguments, get angry, and then run to Fallout reddit or something else and say that we are "toxic".
  18. a721402

    a721402 Played FPS for decades still suck at it.

    Mar 29, 2016
    To be fair, Fallout 3 is greater than New Vegas, not just it will be on a 3D engine that is made for CRPG, and the story will be done by actual good writers.
    To bad it died before get its chance to show itself the world.
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  19. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Snug Rubber

    Sep 11, 2010
    Maybe we can at the very least get a TC mod for Fallout 2 that's Van Buren. Head developer is back working on it I heard.
  20. Cobra Commander

    Cobra Commander Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Dec 6, 2016
    Hahaha, there are some things that are just not true. F76 is not a good game at all.

    and it's okay to like it. For example, I love Kane & Lynch, but I KNOW the game sucks.

    guilty pleasures are like that.