Pete Hines: If you say graphics aren't important you're lyin

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Once again Pete Hines talks out his asshole. I swear I can't read anything by Pete or Todd Howard without picture Jim Carrey using his buttcheeks to talk.

You can seriously tell Pete looks at sales figures more than game design.

According to Hines, quality visuals play a key role in creating "a sense of immersion
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That is why I get so much more deeply immersed in a good book than I do watching a Michael Bay movie. Because its all about the visuals. :roll:
 
Oblivion had awesome graphics for the time. I was so immersed, I could smell the bullshit...

Skyrim will be the same - shoddy construct wrapped in tasteless HDR bloom effects. Sells well. :(
 
Aww... fuck, and I was hoping to get to post that myself.

Anyways, he's full of bullshit and piss as always, though not entirely. He just fails to separate between graphics and art.

Something wich I think DA2, sadly, is a perfect example of - the high res texture pack does'nt do anything but enhance the shittyness of its art.
 
though one thing is true. Visuals DO matter. It depends on the peresentation. But I fear what Todd and is cohones talk about when they say "graphix" is "more bloom" which remembers me to a Frankenstein like scientists when he sits in his laboratory screaming IGOR! MORE TENTACLES! MORE ARMS! MORE EYES! YES IT LIVES !!!

A "good" look is for me important. The newest engine though not. The visuals have to fitt the gameplay. Hence why I can even today still enjoy games like F2 or Baldurs Gate because the graphic fits the kind of game.
 
well to be fair for a sandbox-game like Bethesda usualy is making the visuals in form of "graphic" play a huge role. It seems some good looking world is more imprtant then a world which simply makes sense. Well if Oblivion and Fallout 3 are any indication.
 
[People] will look at a screenshot and make a snap decision: 'that looks awesome', or 'I'm not interested
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Now if you take a button and make it awesome, it's buttawesome!

I agree that graphic is important but on a sensible level. Beyond that he simply states that if you can't play his game you're either a douche or a really poor person. Something you can nail on Crysis but at least it is more interesting to play and they don't power themselves on these "my graphics rocks" cynical statements.
And the fact that the statement i quoted adds you to the group of puberty unreached kids. So fuck you too Pete.
 
YESSSS. TES NEEDS MOAR PINK BLOOD AND GLITTERING MONSTERS!!!

@sea: TES started to get shitty when they started to enhance its graphics. Arena was good. Daggerfall was (and still is) one of the most awesome RPGs ever. However, it looks just TERRIBLE. I'm not saying about technical stuff (you know, engine itself is quite old), but about style of sprites. I just don't like them. But still it is a game where world is insanely HUGE, it is beliveable, it feels alive. And graphics have nothing to do with this. Anyway, Morrowind was quite good (far worse than DF tho), Oblivion is pure shit, and Skyrim will be even more retarded.
 
Not to mention that these morons were using the same engine they used for morrowind(with some improvements) for Oblivion and yet they dare speak such nonsense! gawd! It's amazing!
 
Serge 13: Not the same. Morrowind's engine is NetImmerse, older version of what later has become Gamebryo. It is one line of engines, as in Unreal Engine series.
 
the issue isnt the use of one single engine as long it is updated accordingly like shown with the Unreal engines.

But the way how Bethesda used it in their games ... I mean it is the artist who makes the tools not the tools the artist. So I really dont blame the engine for stiff animations, shit voice acting, glitches, fucked up textures and other errors (like invisible courners of obstacles which eat your bullets because the map designer forgot to set it right with the visible texture).

But well ... letz see how things end with Skyrim.
 
Skyrim... You mean TES V: Retard? Goddamn, they've already told that they're gonna reduce number of skills even further, and that gameplay will put more emphasis on combat :/
 
LinkPain said:
Atomkilla said:
Pete is right, and he is an asshole.
The usual thing.
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He is right that he is an asshole?
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He's right when stating that in gaming business graphics have a big part and are very important for the whole sales of the game.
But he is an asshole too.
He's the right asshole.
 
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