POLL: Trump or Hillary

[Zanardi]

how fallout fans prefer donald trump? It looks like a COD pool, not a Fallout one.

I really hope the "shoot me already" guys vote for hillary, not because she's better, but for damage control.

 

[Jogre]

how fallout fans prefer donald trump? It looks like a COD pool, not a Fallout one.

I really hope the "shoot me already" guys vote for hillary, not because she's better, but for damage control.

Honestly, I think it's just that Trump supporters believe in Trump more than Hillary supporters believe in Hillary.

Hillary's voters choose her because they think of her as the lesser of two evils, whereas Trump voters tend to generally agree with Trump.

 

[Antiwarprofallout]

I just don't want to be drafted into a third world war

 

[CaptJ]

It looks like a COD pool, not a Fallout one.

CoD fans are just easy targets. There were people who claimed that people who hated FO4 were CoD fans. What I truly despise is sport video game fans especially Madden fans that keep EA immortal.

 

[Zanardi]

Honestly, I think it's just that Trump supporters believe in Trump more than Hillary supporters believe in Hillary.

Hillary's voters choose her because they think of her as the lesser of two evils, whereas Trump voters tend to generally agree with Trump.

Good point. Where's Bernie...

 

[Crni Vuk]

Madeline Mccan went missing half a decade ago. The odds of her showing up now, so close to the election, and having been kidnapped by a powerful figure are so unlikely, that it's almost impossible.

Which of course can only mean one thing.

HILLARY'S BEHIND IT ALL!

 

[0wing]

CoD fans are just easy targets. There were people who claimed that people who hated FO4 were CoD fans

Wasn't Fallout 4 a bethesda's CoD? This statement is so silly now.

 

[Vergil]

Imagine blindly hating Trump so much you'll just ignore evidence like the emails just so you desperately dont have tl stop your anti-Trump circle jerk.
Wikileaks has never ever been credibly accused of faking documents but now that it's doing stuff in Trump's favour those emails are total lies and should not be trusted
#MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain

 

[Atomkilla]

Except not a single person gave any sort of scientific evidence to contradict what I was saying.
But by all means just call me an idiot and don't form any arguments, I'm sure that's the best way to get people to change their views on things and prove yours is correct. I may disagree with @JO'Geran but at least his responses had a little more substance than "wow i cant even believe you right now you're just so wrong ugh"
That being said I just feel absolutely BTFO by your epic takedown right now and am not sure how I'll ever recover.
Now, do you have any refutations to what I said or would you like to keep pretending I care what you of all people think of me in a derailed thread on an internet forum for a dying game series?

Y'know, few pages back I did make several arguments, which you failed to respond to, for whatever reason. As for the scientific evidence you wanted...starting with wikipedia sources is not a bad starting point. I sort of felt that posting "proof" on stuff which is universally considered a standard (OAA among other things) is kind of dumb (oh yeah, that highly veritable Russian research you brought up). That being said, I still also wait to see any sort of scientific proof from you that isn't some borderline, obscure research which is dubious at best, and point to the actual rather than posting images of what we are supposed to take as a trustworthy source.
But you know what? Don't bother. Arguing with you is of no real point or relevance, and as I've said before, you're too stubborn to actually change anything regarding your views and will only go a long way into finding obscure data to fit your narrative.

Either way, have fun in life or whatever.

 

[Vergil]

But you know what? Don't bother. Arguing with you is of no real point or relevance, and as I've said before, you're too stubborn to actually change anything regarding your views and will only go a long way into finding obscure data to fit your narrative.

Ok so you're not willing to even try to argue against or disprove any of it but you'll still insist I'm wrong and just a complete and utter moron and I'm just supposed to accept the word of some random guy on the internet having a hissy fit and not providing any evidence of his own to the table to counter act mine and I'm just retarded for believing evidence instead of some dude on a Fallout forum's word.

Well alright then.


pro tip: if you dont want to argue about something, dont respond to the post

 

[aenemic]

Imagine blindly hating Trump so much you'll just ignore evidence like the emails just so you desperately dont have tl stop your anti-Trump circle jerk.

That is such a useless arguement though. No matter what Hillary has done or hasn't done, it doesn't make Donal Trump fit to be president. I don't like Hillary and would much rather see someone else, but that doesn't matter at all. If these things about her are true, she will get hers in due time (at least I hope). But why should that in any way sway people towards Trump? He's an idiot. He knows next to nothing about being president. He's a hate monger and a bigot. Just because there are other horrible people in the world, doesn't mean he's not a horrible choice to lead a country.

 

[Atomkilla]

Ok so you're not willing to even try to argue against or disprove any of it but you'll still insist I'm wrong and I'm just supposed to accept the word of some random guy on the internet having a hissy fit and not providing any evidence of his own to the table.

Well alright then.

As I've said, I've pointed to several things earlier, which you didn't respond. Not that I blame you, maybe you just missed them.
Either way, I don't give particular shit to argue with you, as I've said too, since you are a totally irrelevant person in my life. And yes, I do consider you an idiot, though it's not a hissy fit of any sort, just a personal opinion. Take that as you will.

 

[CaptJ]

Wasn't Fallout 4 a bethesda's CoD? This statement is so silly now.

It is an easy way to gain gamer cred. Everyone else beside you is a casual or an elitist.

 

[Vergil]

That is such a useless arguement though. No matter what Hillary has done or hasn't done, it doesn't make Donal Trump fit to be president.

Even if all the bullshit you'rre about to say was true it certainly makes him more fit to be president than a literal criminal.

I don't like Hillary and would much rather see someone else, but that doesn't matter at all.

Well considering there is someone else you can pick from her......

she will get hers in due time (at least I hope).

Not if people don't vote for Trump and let Hillary become President and continue to let the establishment remain in control.
If you want her to get hers in due time maybe support the guy who will hire a special prosecutor and not the woman herself for the Presidency? lol

But why should that in any way sway people towards Trump?

>why should Hillary being a criminal with a shady and horrific past of crime, coverups and getting people killed sway people towards her opponent
Hmmmmmm.......
Fuck got me beat there, couldn't imagine why.

He's an idiot.

Proof.
I'm guessing you know more than a stupid man whose made 8 billion dollars and runs a real estate and media empire?
If that guy is an idiot what the fuck are you?

He knows next to nothing about being president.

Proof.
Sure seems to know a lot considering he has detailed policy plans on his website.

He's a hate monger and a bigot.

This is just straight up fucking lies.
Give me one, ONE example of him being a bigot and a hate monger.
Why because he wants to put a stop to massive amounts of illegal immigration that the country can't sustain? Because he wants to stop immigration from countries that terrorists are coming from until we get a handle on the situation? Oh God it's literally another holocaust you guys!
Meanwhile theres actual proof of Hillary insulting people like Bernie based on his race and calling him a "fucking jew bastard" but the media told you Trump is the evil racist so I guess you should listen and believe like a good boy.

Just because there are other horrible people in the world, doesn't mean he's not a horrible choice to lead a country.

Well he's not a horrible choice and you've brought no credible reason for him being one but even if that was true theres two options. Trump or Hillary. Third Party canidates have zero chance of winning. You have to ask yourself who you'd prefer to be president. A lying, deceitful criminal whose fast tracking us into conflict after conflict or a man whom you can't come up with a real reason why he's bad besides media buzzwords.

Either way, I don't give particular shit to argue with you,

Then why are you still posting and responding? Especially to a discussion that's now moved past that topic and a whole day if you don't want to talk about it?
Seems kind of counter-intuitive.

And yes, I do consider you an idiot, though it's not a hissy fit of any sort, just a personal opinion. Take that as you will.

Ok but until you prove why I'm an idiot the word rings hollow.

 

[Millim]

In all honesty, yes, even if Hillary is a criminal, it still makes her a better fit for president.
For one thing, she actually knows a bit about politics, in fact she knows a lot.

Donald Trump is basically that one guy who made a point that someone agreed with and said "Oh, Trump for president" and he took it seriously.
The guy is a buffoon, an absolute joke. He knows next to nothing about politics. The one thing everyone jokes about with him is when he said "I'll build a wall and get the Mexicans to pay for it"
Was he being 100% serious when he said that?

You're right, Hillary is the lesser of two evils, I'll be concerned however if anyone actually agrees with either person. Like are people seriously that braindead that they will vote for possibly the worse people outside of Ted Cruz. I could have done with another Bush over these two, that's how bad things are. But things suck, they really do. I mean, Hillary may be absolute scum, but Trump is worthless scum.

The fact that people agree with him boggles my mind. How do you read? How do you even breath when your braincells amount to that of a pile of dogshit?

 

[olestra]

good to know vergil got up in time for lunch

let me know when it's over, i'll be watching my collection of beheading videos

 

[Crni Vuk]

Imagine blindly hating Trump so much you'll just ignore evidence like the emails just so you desperately dont have tl stop your anti-Trump circle jerk.
Wikileaks has never ever been credibly accused of faking documents but now that it's doing stuff in Trump's favour those emails are total lies and should not be trusted
#MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain

Well.

if I had to chose between the two, I would take Hillary. Not because I like her in particular much more then Trump, but because she's the better politican.

Thing thing is, if aaaaaaal the stuff they say about Hillary would be true. That she is a dangerous crooked corrupt master criminal, then it begs the question why she wasn't even convincted once in all those years, all the hearings, investigations and claims, be it by the FBI, or official surveys you name it. None of it ever lead to one single sentence where she had to face some serious consequences like jail or something similar.

This really can only mean 1 of 3 things.

1. Most of the claims by the right-wing and Trump supporters are well either overhyped or plain wrong.

2. She is really very very very(!) good at covering stuff up and hidding any meaningfull evidence.

3. She bought everyone, the whole system, from judges, to senators, the FBI, you name it, all of it is on her side.​

The way how I see it. No matter which of those 3 points turns out to be right, any of it would still mean that she is more fitt to rule the nation than Trump. As all of it shows that she has still more brain as Trump.

*Edit
And if you really REALLY don't see why a lot of the rhetoric from Trump is racist, xenophobic bullshit from a text book demagogue, then you're so far stuck in your bubble that not even a needle made of adamantium could penetrate it.

 

[Vergil]

In all honesty, yes, even if Hillary is a criminal, it still makes her a better fit for president.

Well.
if I had to chose between the two, I would take Hillary. Not because I like her in particular much more then Trump, but because she's the better politican.

"Yea she's got numerous fuckups, lies to the American people, is an incompetent fuckup who got her private server full of classified email leaked to multiple different parties, destablished Libya and had a hand in destabilizing others, got americans fucking killed in Benghazi and is known to have voted for the war in Iraq, is trying to do the same to Syria and has openly stated shes willing to make conflict with Russia based on no evidence at all, has connections with crazy people who paint with blood and semen on the walls, has a rapist husband, has stated behind the scenes she wants to dissolve the border, has been known to flip flop and say anything to get support and can't offer up anything but lies and platitutdes when asked about policy...... Trump is a big dumb meanie head so ImWithHer "

Right she's so much smarter than Trump that's why she put classified info on an easily hackable private server.
Right she's such an experienced politician that in 30 years she hasn't accomplished anything she's saying she will and voted for shit like the Iraq war and had fuck ups like Benghazi and destablized Libya.

I love how you people will claim to not blindly trust the government but now you trust the government to tell you Hillary isn't guilty lol
It's not "claims", it's exlict shit right there in the emails. The fact that she even had that server and tried to cover it up is actually a crime already so even if theres nothing in those emails she's already broken the law multiple times.
But of course in the real world bad people never win and surely a criminal whose been connected to the heads of our government for 3 decades totally wouldn't be able to weasel her way out of anything and everything is being done by the book.

MOD: No namecalling.

 

[Millim]

Alright, I'm gonna say this now, if anyone thinks that anyone wants to start a war with fucking Russia, then they are dead wrong.

 

[Crni Vuk]

Right she's so much smarter than Trump that's why she put classified info on an easily hackable private server.
Right she's such an experienced politician that in 30 years she hasn't accomplished anything she's saying she will and voted for shit like the Iraq war and had fuck ups like Benghazi and destablized Libya.

I love how you people will claim to not blindly trust the government but now you trust the government to tell you Hillary isn't guilty lol
It's not "claims", it's exlict shit right there in the emails. The fact that she even had that server and tried to cover it up is actually a crime already so even if theres nothing in those emails she's already broken the law multiple times.
But of course in the real world bad people never win and surely a criminal whose been connected to the heads of our government for 3 decades totally wouldn't be able to weasel her way out of anything and everything is being done by the book.

And why was she never convicted even once for all the 'stuff' she fucked up?