Throatpunch
Banned
Who really gives a shit about what a foetus does for its host. I dunno. I guess provides amusement (women get really weird and funny cravings).
Pro life or Pro choice
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R.Graves
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All I'm saying is it doesn't do anything for its host. It's actually physically detrimental to the host. Why Is that such s bad thing to say?
Throatpunch
Banned
If you want immediate benefits like that you should change. Patience is a virtue. I'm sure couples can tolerate morning sickness and excessive Ben & Jerry's gorging to ensure the future of the human race.
R.Graves
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The future of the human race is pretty much ensured. Look around man. We're a worldwide epidemic. We're doing fine. And there you go by saying don't expect immediate benefits you basically admit that fetuses can't do anything for its host while being a fetus. It has to wait until it a a full blown human. Right?
Throatpunch
Banned
Of course not. Why are you even asking this?
R.Graves
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Because that's what we've been talking about for like a page and a half? And What do you mean by of course not? Elaborate.
Throatpunch
Banned
Its still a developing foetus that probably isn't even sentient until about 7 months. So of course its not going to be able to do anything useful.
Its incredibly unreasonable to expect anything of them. Its like asking a person with no legs to get up and put the kettle on.
Because they ensure that your lineage continues to go on? What kind of cuckold dismisses the idea of ever having children because "someone else will do it instead \_(:/)_/" Also the whole "theres too many people!!!111!!!" thing doesn't even apply here. Places like Africa and China is where the massive hordes of people are being born, you having a couple isn't going to destroy the planet (especially with the White birthrate plummeting as it is).
R.Graves
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Why should I care about my lineage? I'm not gonna be around to be proud of it.
I'm not expecting it to do anything except leech sustenance off of its host. Why are you fighting this so hard? The post basically straight up says fetuses are useless.
Throatpunch
Banned
Many parents who said thats children grew up to be massive historical cunts.
Why is this a problem.
R.Graves
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1. I don't quite understand your first statement.
2. I never said it was. All I said was a fetus loosely fits the definition of a parasite. And you're fighting me while giving no evidence of a symbiotic relationship.
Throatpunch
Banned
It sort of is a symbiotic relationship in a different way. Mothers can survive without fetuses, fetuses cant without mothers etc. But fetuses cant survive without humans, and humans cant without fetuses.
When parents leave their kids alone and dont pay enough attention to what they could become, kids tend to become shits.
Like many who are born to rubbish parents in LEDCS become drug dealers, or violent criminals for example.
This guy is an excellent example:
R.Graves
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I have survived without fetuses. And I can well into old age. So can it's mother. All I'm saying is that a fetus, not a baby not a human, doesn't do any good for anybody. It is a parasite. Why is that so hard to accept? I'm not saying fetuses are a bad thing. All I said was that they're basically parasites and if a person doesn't want to have to deal with that they shouldn't.
Throatpunch
Banned
You have misunderstood me totally. Humans as a whole cant survive without fetuses. We would die out, that is what I am getting at.
Because you are fucking wrong. Parasites take stuff and provide nothing in return. Fetuses are not parasites because they ensure humans live on and dont just fizzle out into extinction.
R.Graves
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1. I was never trying to say humans can survive without fetuses.
2. They are parasites to their hosts. That's all I ever said. They have a parasitic relationship with the woman carrying them. That's all I ever said. The fact that they later become humans is irrelevant to the parasitic relationship a fetus has with it's host. C'mon its not that hard to understand, man.
Throatpunch
Banned
Oh I get it. I thought you meant they're parasites to humanity. My mistake.
Well, you could see at it that way, 30% of the worlds population consumed about 40% of the resources. And those 30%, are for the most part not living in those places that you're talking about and that see those massive hordes of newborns.
When it comes to the real damage of this world, it goes hand in hand with wealth. I am just saying 1 person can consume more then 10 people, depending on their life style. And that's pretty much what we currently do, you would need like 2 aditional planets full of resources if you would try to push every human being on this planet on the living standard of the average Amrican or German. I mean, there are at least 2 billion people that don't have even access to any electricity at all.
R.Graves
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And all becomes clear. Why am I So easily misunderstood? Its been happening a lot on the boards recently.
Probably because for 99% of the people out there a fetus is not a parasite, which comes from the fact that well, parasites are for the most part seen as something negative, where our own biology isn't seen as something bad, simply because out of self preservation. It doesn't take a genious to figure out what would happen if pretty much everyone would see the fetus as parasitic and reproduction and children as something bad. - Beacuse I would simply argue, that in most cases people want to keep their children beacuse it is hard wired in our biology, where as most people would want a parasite to be removed, for obvious reasons.
Yes, but this definition is still stupid, in my opinion, because it is so broad that almost everything that is even remotely depended on someone could be described as parasite or parasitic. Usually, as far as I know in biology this taxonomy is not used on human fetuses, particularly as the word parasite has a very negative connotation, where as bearing children is a normal procedure of reproduction. I mean sure, you could probably describe the behaviour of a fetus as parasitic, and you would be fairly accurate, but it's usually not seen as one. A parasite in biology usually refers to a relationship between different species, and not to describe the relationship that a fetus has with his mother, host or what ever you want to call it. The fetus is simply seen as part of the reproductive biology. Similar in principle maybe, but yet totally different from the goal.
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Francis H
It Wandered In From the Wastes
I think it´s pretty stupid to say someone is a Pro in life, much less in choice. How do you even qualify that?