Pro life or Pro choice

Jogre said:
A.You realise that under most jurisdictions the father can collect child support from the mother if the father is the one with custody over the child right? This image is really misleading as it implies that the mother can demand child support whereas the father has to "suck it up and pay it up", when really whichever parent has custody over the child can demand child support.
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Family courts rarely rule for paternal custody. Fathers are DISCOURAGED from demanding custody extremely often by their own damn lawyers. Family courts in general are a gigantic racket. Also, mothers who want custody (and sweet CS checks) usually opt for "silver bullets" like IMPLYING that the father was violent towards them or the kids (not even a full accusation necessarily - THEIR lawyers encourage this and will coach them accordingly). Also, fun fact - by percentage mothers are more likely to go deadbeat than dads are. There's no shame campaign against deadbeat moms, though. Funny that.

When it comes to having kids and keeping kids, women pretty much hold all the cards and if you raise your eyebrow at that you're a neckbearded MRA misogynist.
 
Pariah Dog said:
Family courts rarely rule for paternal custody. Fathers are DISCOURAGED from demanding custody extremely often by their own damn lawyers. Family courts in general are a gigantic racket.
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I know, I'm aware that's an issue.

The solution would be to try and give aid to fathers who have legitimate cases for custody over their children, rather than getting mad at alimony/child support.
 
Jogre said:
I know, I'm aware that's an issue.

The solution would be to try and give aid to fathers who have legitimate cases for custody over their children, rather than getting mad at alimony/child support.
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Alimony's just fucking BS in this day and age. Child support I get, but fuck alimony with a rusty rake. Sideways.
 
Abortion is a difficult issue. It's a big issue globally with abortion being illegal in many places which leads to the DEATHS of thousands of women every year. It's closely linked to women's rights on a global level. I think it would help a lot if the Vatican would stop espousing anti-contraception and anti-abortion propaganda in the world, they really are a cancer upon the humanity. Nothing wrong with Vatican that carpet bombing and rocket and artillery barrages couldn't cure though.
 
Yeah, when it comes to children and marriage, males really have the short end of the stick right now. THough I have say a lot of males are assholes too, half of the children I work with in my job have only their mothers, while the father decided to leave them and they often don't give a rats ass about their child.

I love children, but the more I work with them, the more do I thank god that I never got one.
 
Pro choice, kids are fucking expensive and time consuming.

Mothers need to stop having babies with assholes BTW.
 
Uuuuggghhh why is abortion even a topic for discussion in the western world anymore.

In my opinion abortion should not be used as a form of birth control, but with that being said this is a personal choice and any legislation around it should always be that they should be allowed to happen. I knew a woman with MS who got pregnant while on her meds, she normally attended a catholic hospital (I cant believe that we still let churches run hospitals and not private business here but what ever), the doctors told her that due to her meds she will not be able to carry the child to term and that the child will never be born alive and was effectively a weird mutated growth of cells. If this was to continue it would most likely cost her her life. They told her the baby had to be terminated immediately, and now the kicker, but due to there personal views about abortion and the churches view she would have to find another place and doctor to do this and no they would not recommend anyone of place.

That is a crock of shit.
 
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