Religion is the root of all evil

[Kleist]

Being agnostic, both atheists and the religious can piss me off on occasion

Really, dude, claiming you're in the middle and that neither of the views can be proved doesn't make you a wonder of the world.
You don't seem to understand that God is such a loose concept that can never be disproved. In fact proving something doesn't exists, has no logical meaning.
On the other hand, though, if something cannot be disproved doesn't mean it exists.
Gods and such have no place in our universe. A universe that runs very well by itself is only complicated by the existence of gods.
And thus, you, agsnostics really have no reason to exist other than just being there claiming to be smarter than anyone else and being labeled as something just like any other cattle.
Let go of the labels, and fucking think for yourself.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

 

[SuAside]

Pseudo-intellectual? Why? 'Cause I don't copy my opinions and statements from books or the interweb like most of you do constantly?

you saying the islam and Allah are retarded because they'd sponsor violence & war, saying the christian god is insane, and so on and so forth. that makes it pretty pseudo-intellectual in my book, as it shows you haven't actually put much actual mental effort in your random flaming rant. you try to prove you take the intellectual highground, yet you do so only under false pretence and illconceived argument.

strip the random flames & go back to the core of your argument, then you might make a more intellectual impression.

Right...
I guess 'thinking for oneself' is something they stopped teaching when I graduated.

thinking for yourself? my good man, that's exactly what you're not doing!

thanks to your random rage your (usually elevated) mental capacity seems to have plumeted to an all time low.

in the effort to voice your opinion (which might or might not be well thought out), you start pulling in random stuff that has no bearing or that is obviously false to anyone who'd take a second to do some research.

*snip*
You guys belong more to the sponge-group then, I suppose? Good at sucking (up) and spitting (out).
You must be proud to have such impressive ways of expressing yourself.

will you stop giving yourself verbal blowjobs? it's helping neither of us and it only makes you look like an arrogant sob who cant stop polishing his doorknob.

Plus: I just can't take reading all those naive religious sproutings anymore. You people are the lost ones. If you don't want to be saved, it's kinda pointless to keep offering that help, ain't it?

how kind of you to flame "us" in order to convert us to the one and only correct track of mind: yours.


PS: were it not for the illconceived expression of your opinion by the way, i'd probably have agreed with you on most of your points, alec.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Do you guys reckon that religion is the cause of much of the suffering of the world? Was it the cause of most wars?

It absolutely is.

Look what it did to Alec here. Good ol' wishy-washy Alec, forgot he was created around a "Diplo/cynical/sniper" build and entered the fray with the "dedication" of a Dunton brother. If the mere mention of religion can do that to an intelligent man, it is, indeed, a tool of power. Of eeeeevil power. So yes religion is evil and dangerous.

As for God... well, there is no God.

 

[Sander]

Do you guys reckon that religion is the cause of much of the suffering of the world? Was it the cause of most wars?

It absolutely is.

Look what it did to Alec here. Good ol' wishy-washy Alec, forgot he was created around a "Diplo/cynical/sniper" build and entered the fray with the "dedication" of a Dunton brother. If the mere mention of religion can do that to an intelligent man, it is, indeed, a tool of power. Of eeeeevil power. So yes religion is evil and dangerous.

As for God... well, there is no God.

Banned. Again. For re-registering. Yet again.

Goodbye, Vatslurker/Lonely Vazdru. Bypassing a ban is *not* the way to get back in.

 

[LazyD]

To say Religion in itself.. and All religions are the root of evil is to go a little far...

There are many religions in which not one war has been fought over, or has been carried out in its name.. So Not all religions breed hate for different cultures or other religions.

As for Organized religion.. or Fanatic religious groups. Well thats all a matter of opinion.. if you think what happened in the spanish inquisition was Evil.. you may be right.. but once again.. Everyone has there own opinion. To just say.. Religion is Evil. End of story. Your all wrong blah blah blah.. Well that in itself is ignorance.. And close minded thinking. There is no right or wrong on this subject. There are part of religions that are contridictory to there cause.. But not everyone in that given religion agree with certain stances that are taken or carried out by that given religion.

 

[Brother None]

Do you guys reckon that religion is the cause of much of the suffering of the world? Was it the cause of most wars?

Ok, seriously people, I can't believe you guys are even considering the question, especially someone who is academically trained like alec.

Why?

Because the question is inherently flawed.

"Evil" is an all-pervasive idea that has been omnipresent since the dawn of time. "Religion" is an all-pervasive idea that has been omnipresent since the dawn of time. Well, say people like alec, since they're both omnipresent since forever, they must be related!

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Far out, man. Far out in the realms of stupidity, that is.

People always had left hands too, thus left hands must be related to being evil. QED.

Evil and religion are as naturally ingrained into human society as limbs or the ability to think. This means that they're all interrelated, but also means that any effort to point out one as a cause of the other is scientifically unsound and round-about stupid.

Evil caused religion is about as intelligent a statement as religion caused evil. And hey, they're both roughly equally true. Also, good caused religion and religion caused good. Hells yeah!

 

[Vox]

People are good or evil. Religion, amongst other things, can be used to express the person's intentions.

 

[Per]

I'm an atheist, which means saying, "There's no reason to bother with higher powers that are a) undefined and b) not in evidence, so I'm just not going to." I've never met one of these "I'm going to prove God doesn't exist" people, yet for some reason, all arguments against atheism seem to target them.

 

[alec]

I think I'm about to give up on these boards.

I'm a reasonable man, get off my case.

Please.

 

[Sander]

Really, dude, claiming you're in the middle and that neither of the views can be proved doesn't make you a wonder of the world.
You don't seem to understand that God is such a loose concept that can never be disproved.

The statement 'God exists' hence has no scientific merit since there is no way to evaluate its possible falsehood.

In fact proving something doesn't exists, has no logical meaning.

Ehm, yes it does. In fact, I really don't see how this is not a logical statement, it very much is.

On the other hand, though, if something cannot be disproved doesn't mean it exists.
Gods and such have no place in our universe. A universe that runs very well by itself is only complicated by the existence of gods.

Yet you have no idea whether it runs very well by itself. You're just assuming that it does.
Also, a universe may be 'complicated' by the existence of a God, but that doesn't make any side more right or wrong.

You are bitching at 'us' agnostics for claiming, essentially, that we don't *know* anything about a god (an easily proveable statement), yet you make statements that are at the very least questionable and at worst false.

And thus, you, agsnostics really have no reason to exist other than just being there claiming to be smarter than anyone else and being labeled as something just like any other cattle.
Let go of the labels, and fucking think for yourself.

Ooh, 'labels are bad, mkay.'
Bullshit. Labels are functional and can describe ones position very well. Just because you accept a certain label as applying to you does not mean that you don't think for yourself, just that you feel that a certain label represents what you think *for yourself*.

 

[Brother None]

I'm a reasonable man, get off my case.

Reason has about as much to do with your post in this thread as a delicious turkey dinner does with celebrating slaughtering the Indians.

Rationality doesn't factor into it. Chump.

I thought you had made your last post in the thread a page back, by the way?

Also, a universe may be 'complicated' by the existence of a God, but that doesn't make any side more right or wrong.

Yes it does. Occam's Razor.

he decides to take a blunt pocketknife and cut off your clit and labia

That's a cultural tradition, not a religious habit.

 

[Sander]

Yes it does. Occam's Razor.

Yes, I thought about bringing that up. However, Occam's Razor is not a universal law but a guideline. It 'advises' anyone to embrace the 'easier' solution but it does not offer any decisive factuality. In essence, it's a general guideline that is unproven in its general form, but often applicable.

 

[Lukus]

I'm an atheist, which means saying, "There's no reason to bother with higher powers that are a) undefined and b) not in evidence, so I'm just not going to." I've never met one of these "I'm going to prove God doesn't exist" people, yet for some reason, all arguments against atheism seem to target them.

Exactly, same here. I'm fed up with people who think that all atheists are 'strong atheists', as well as religious people that claim atheism to be just as much of a religion as their own.

I usually say that I'm an atheist because "I'm not a theist"; I lack a belief in one or more deities, and I'm an agnostic in that I don't *know* whether any Gods actually exist. As the term 'atheist' is often associated with strong atheists who claim they can prove the non-existence of a God, I find that the term 'agnostic' is, for some reason, often associated with the pansy-ass, weak agnostics who just don't have a clue as to what they believe. Hehe.

I don't believe in a God just like I don't believe in leprechauns. My disbelief in leprechauns doesn't make me quite comparable in the logic and rationality department to people who do believe in leprechauns because "it's just as much of beleif to not believe!". It's not - not unless you actively 'unbelieve'.

 

[Wooz]

This is nonsense.

Everybody knows, as Our Most Glorious Leader once said, that the source of all evil are the Jews.

And the commies, and homosexuals, and liberals, and "lie-elites", and a mysterious postcommunist "pact" and Germans and Russians and people from aristocratic families and atheists and the intelligentsia and artists and people who use contraceptives and JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING WHICH ISN'T A MARRIED POLISH ULTRACATHOLIC NAZI.

 

[Brother None]

Are you some kind of hatmonger, Wooz?

 

[DirtyDreamDesigner]

All your hats are belong to me!

 

[Gwenfloor]

Religion itself is not evil, it is a bunch of corrupt priests who alter the holy book to shape the religion their way. In the original Qu'ran around 500 A.D, female Muslims had more rights than they did today.

 

[Montez]

It always gives me a good laugh when atheists are just as fanatical, passionate, furious and intolerant towards "disbelievers" as the most righteous and devoted servants of The Lord. For something that you supposedly believe doesn't exist, you sure get worked up over it.

 

[Gwenfloor]

It always gives me a good laugh when atheists are just as fanatical, passionate, furious and intolerant towards "disbelievers" as the most righteous and devoted servants of The Lord. For something that you supposedly believe doesn't exist, you sure get worked up over it.

It is quite sad how atheists get so riled up. If I knew the One True Way, then I would not care what others think.

 

[LazyD]

It always gives me a good laugh when atheists are just as fanatical, passionate, furious and intolerant towards "disbelievers" as the most righteous and devoted servants of The Lord. For something that you supposedly believe doesn't exist, you sure get worked up over it.

It's because we find it hard to believe that people can so easily dedicate there faith, money, and life into something that comes out of a book. Not to mention kill over it... If you ask me.. the lot of it is very primitive. Soon we will evolve out it tho.. Just like a teenager stuck in a fad...

edit:

and I honestly don't care what people think. The only thing that bothers me is when people push there ideals or religion.. or anything else on me. That pushes me over the edge.. and turns me into a crazed maniac screaming, "there is no f'ing god.. you're all fools". Which in return drives the oposite party 2x crazier than i ever was to begin with.

So all in all. I know the facts. I know Science hasnt failed me yet... So I'll stick on My 'one true way". Kthnx