Rose, Van Graffs and Crimson Caravan-

Rose, Crimson Caravan and the Van Graffs

  • Sold out Rose to the Van Graffs

    Votes: 56 100.0%

  • Gave the NCR the evidence to arrest the Van Graffs and Crimson Cav

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Delivered more than a pound of whoop ass on both Van Graffs and Alice

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Resolved this another way

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    56
In my first run I just delviered the evidence to the NCR, it was pre patch so I can still go and buy ammo from them, I don't know if its a bug or what. Independent.
In my second run I delivered the evidence to the NCR, but Then I decided that I liked that Plasma caster a lot and that I could use some ammo, and armor, and caps, and that I wanted to put a plasma beam on Jean Baptiste ugly mug, and those guys looked tasty, so I went and killed them all, looted the place, devoured their bodies and slooooooooooooowly went back to my Lucky 38 suite. That was my House Run.
Of coruse in my NCR run I decided to personaly kill Cass with my Oh Baby! hey it was a small price for Da Repulik of Kandycornia.
I also completed the Gun Runners sidequest, you jsut have to enter at night and sneak in, no bloddy massacres necesary.
And in my Legion run, I just went and got Cass Rose of revenge Perk, painted the walls red. I also went and killed the Gunn Runners just to make the Crimson Caravan expansion efforts a lot harder.

There is also a way to kill them indirectly in their sidequest, you jsut let the guy with the bomb nter, but you lose some major loot.
 
I have decided I am going to go independent for Vegas. They are all going to die as I have no faith in the NCR's justice system. Too much damn politics and that these bastards are picking on independent carivans is just bad business for Vegas. If NCR doesn't like it, they can bite me.

As for the gun runners, yes, good stealth skills and a stealth boy will allow you grab the plans. You can also grab a bunch of loot while you are in there. I think there was an assault rifle and a power fist.
 
I always kill the Van Graffs for the BoS before I even meet Cass. Because I want power armor.

Out of all my playthroughs (3 on X360 and 3 on PS3), I think I helped Cass one time, and killed Alice, etc.

On my most recent playthrough, I sided with the Legion and made the NCR hate me, and this made The Crimson Caravan hate me too. So, when i went there, they attacked me -- I killed them all, and the next day Cass came out of nowhere (in front of the Gun Runners vendertron) and attacked me!!
-- Does that make no sense or what?
 
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