Shamus Young "The Blistering Stupidity of Fallout 3"

[joevonzombie]

Sensationalist knitpicking. For one thing, he makes out like fallout 3's aesthetic is out of place in particular due to the time gap when fallout 2 got away with it being set a few decades before.

All of the inconsistencies with the plot that he points out hardly put a dent In the experience.

As an avid reader and occasional writer, when I was researching fo3 before playing it, I was intrigued by how most people either revered the story or despised it so much that it ruined the game.

When I first played the game completely, I could easily pick up on the plot holes as I do when reading or watching a movie or show, but I was easily able to shrug them off. People who mock fallout 3 for these reasons show a lack of ability to suspend disbelief, and honestly, I thought of Fallout 3 as an excellent Fallout title and an excellent game in general.

If people held all works to the standards they hold to Fallout 3, everything would suck.

Not quite. Complaining that Fallout 3's world, story, and characters do not make sense within the fictional universe it's supposed to be set in is not "nitpicking."

Fallout 3 is supposed to be a sequel to Fallout 2. In Fallout 2, it's established that a GECK can do a hell of a lot more than purify water, so why does James want to waste it on Project Purity? Look at Vault City, don't you think DC would be better off if they used it for its intended purpose?

Fallout 3 sucks in the gameplay department too, it's a RPG where character builds don't matter and your choices have no consequences or affect on the actual world... so it's not really a role playing game and for a FPS, the shooting mechanics are horrible and VATS is laughably broken.

All you have left is the exploration element, but there are so many wasted locations where there isn't anything to actually do. That element is ruined as well.

 

[Dr Fallout]

You're a writer? I expect better, but I shouldn't judge. The Fallout story is ridiculous and suffers so many OBVIOUS and STUPID plot holes you have to be BLIND to ignore them all!

 

[generalissimofurioso]

Not to mention that it's harder to ignore plot holes when they just keep coming at you or when the entirety of the narrative hinges on it.

A plot hole isn't the same thing as a necessary weasel or canard, plot holes actively damage the suspension of disbelief.

Fuck, with a little forethought, Fallout 3's story could've actually been pretty decent.

 

[Crni Vuk]

Sensationalist knitpicking. For one thing, he makes out like fallout 3's aesthetic is out of place in particular due to the time gap when fallout 2 got away with it being set a few decades before.

All of the inconsistencies with the plot that he points out hardly put a dent In the experience.

As an avid reader and occasional writer, when I was researching fo3 before playing it, I was intrigued by how most people either revered the story or despised it so much that it ruined the game.

When I first played the game completely, I could easily pick up on the plot holes as I do when reading or watching a movie or show, but I was easily able to shrug them off. People who mock fallout 3 for these reasons show a lack of ability to suspend disbelief, and honestly, I thought of Fallout 3 as an excellent Fallout title and an excellent game in general.

If people held all works to the standards they hold to Fallout 3, everything would suck.

And you call your self a writer? Don't you have any standards? That's like me as artist saying that I don't give a crap about anatomy or style when looking at a painting of some portrait that is trying to be as realistic as possible.

No one is complaining about a few smaller issues here and there. Hell that you can find JET in Fallout 3 is really not the problem. But almost every quest in the game is writen as pure clusterfuck, with the dialog between the player, president Eden, Col. Autmn or what ever his name was, and the players father as the biggest offenders, but god knows there are many more. Or the way how your companions, like Fawkes and the Ghoul treat you at the purifier? Oh! Sorry, I could totally rescue your and the life of that dumb BoS chick, with ABSOLUTELY NO EFFORT(!), but you know I don't want to rob you from your destiny! Even though you robbed me from my destiny when you saved my Live in the Vault. The fact that Karma and Karma points are lead at absurdum in Fallout 3 with water donations to beggars? I mean we can't let people who decide to blow up Megaton beeing forced in to playing a "bad" person, can we?

Is THAT what someone should expect in any RPG?

 

[Dr Fallout]

Sensationalist knitpicking. For one thing, he makes out like fallout 3's aesthetic is out of place in particular due to the time gap when fallout 2 got away with it being set a few decades before.

All of the inconsistencies with the plot that he points out hardly put a dent In the experience.

As an avid reader and occasional writer, when I was researching fo3 before playing it, I was intrigued by how most people either revered the story or despised it so much that it ruined the game.

When I first played the game completely, I could easily pick up on the plot holes as I do when reading or watching a movie or show, but I was easily able to shrug them off. People who mock fallout 3 for these reasons show a lack of ability to suspend disbelief, and honestly, I thought of Fallout 3 as an excellent Fallout title and an excellent game in general.

If people held all works to the standards they hold to Fallout 3, everything would suck.

And you call your self a writer? Don't you have any standards? That's like me as artist saying that I don't give a crap about anatomy or style when looking at a painting of some portrait that is trying to be as realistic as possible.

No one is complaining about a few smaller issues here and there. Hell that you can find JET in Fallout 3 is really not the problem. But almost every quest in the game is writen as pure clusterfuck, with the dialog between the player, president Eden, Col. Autmn or what ever his name was, and the players father as the biggest offenders, but god knows there are many more. Or the way how your companions, like Fawkes and the Ghoul treat you at the purifier? Oh! Sorry, I could totally rescue your and the life of that dumb BoS chick, with ABSOLUTELY NO EFFORT(!), but you know I don't want to rob you from your destiny! Even though you robbed me from my destiny when you saved my Live in the Vault. The fact that Karma and Karma points are lead at absurdum in Fallout 3 with water donations to beggars? I mean we can't let people who decide to blow up Megaton beeing forced in to playing a "bad" person, can we?

Is THAT what someone should expect in any RPG?

HELL YES!!!

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