So, how good are the other 2 Matrix films?

[Violator]

What?
That isn't an answer to a philosophical question at all. That's just a story premise.
And a flawed one at that.

The sole premise of the movie is giving the answer (withing the frame of the story) to one of the oldest philosophical questions

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Except the movies don't tackle or even approach any of this. They dismiss everything by hand-waving and throwing Neo at any obstacle.

I agree with that.

And again: I didn't say that it is a deep philosophical movie. It flared my interest for philosophy (as did some other factors) so I believe it can do the same for someone else. Better than most other action movies, that's for sure.

 

[Sander]

What?
That isn't an answer to a philosophical question at all. That's just a story premise.
And a flawed one at that.

The sole premise of the movie is giving the answer (withing the frame of the story) to one of the oldest philosophical questions

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You don't understand the difference between telling a neat little story and answering a philosophical question?
This is akin to saying that Star Wars answers the most important philosophical question (through The Force) within the frame of its story. It's a useless observation.

By the way, the premise of the movie isn't even answering that question, as in the movie the actual world is still presumed to be real.

 

[Per]

I once wrote a story that answered eternal questions like, is there a higher power? How do we relate to it? Because there were these people and they opened a box, and in that box was God and it was a kitten. And that kitten hated everyone!

 

[Violator]

You don't understand the difference between telling a neat little story and answering a philosophical question?

I haven't said that the movie answered anything, especially not some eternal truth or axiom. I just said that within the movie that question is answered. The fact that the answer becomes meaningless when you learn about the existence of the non-virtual ("real") world - you said that yourself - is right of course, I fully concur. Not that any of this is at all relevant to real life existence at all. It only can give you some good material to work your brains out, that's all (and that's why you should go and see it, at least the 1st one). You get me now?

@Per: why the kitty hated everyone?

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

the Matrix is nothing more than an interesting premise watered-down for half-educated, anti-social tweens.

 

[UniversalWolf]

I once wrote a story that answered eternal questions like, is there a higher power? How do we relate to it? Because there were these people and they opened a box, and in that box was God and it was a kitten. And that kitten hated everyone!

Heh.

I've always thought The Matrix had essentially the same plot as Harry Potter. A downtrodden misfit one day discovers the world is bigger than he thought it was, and he's the only one who can save it (The Chosen One™).

 

[Brother None]

It's based on user votes. So The Matrix must appeal to alot of IMDB users.

Yeah. Though not all Imdb users. They have this kind of zany calculation which factors in certain people (regulars) and factors out other voters.

It actually works pretty well. I mean, it's popularized, American-centered and has a predilection to recent films (new releases tend to rocket up to, such as the Dark Knight hitting #1, but they go down after a while). It does get pretty lulzy at times (hell, right off the bat as listing Shawshank Redemption as #1), but if you want a list of must-watch classics, you could do worse than taking the Imdb top 250, filtering out all titles younger than 10 years, and watching 'em all.

 

[Dirk Magirk]

I didn't mind the first. As for two and three, if I wanted religious symbolism I would be in church on Sunday morning, instead of hungover working the brunch shift, listening to peoples dietary concerns.