So...how was the Institute built?

Yeah, it's quite unclear why the brotherhood suddenly decides that merging man and machine is heresy. Nothing in their background seem to justify, or explain this particular point of view. If anything, given their batallions of bionic augmented soldiers, they should view the Institute as competitors, eventually idiots playing with fire, but not ideological enemies. I'm fine with the new approach, but I can't seem to remember any justification for it. Hell, Zimmer used to flex the institute's muscles before BoS operatives in Fallout 3, even gave one some bionic implants, and nobody even gave a damn.
Well, they just hate the whole concept of lifeforms created by another humans that are clearly not BoS at least. Well, they never got anything against augs since you can even spend 11 weeks improving yourself in Fallout 1 and Alt+F4 seems to follow this path.
Neither did anyone about his bodyguards, who were openly introduced as machines wearing human flesh.
Who? Zimmer had one bodyguard who maybe just a mercenary, IDK. Maxson? He have ones?
 
Well, they just hate the whole concept of lifeforms created by another humans that are clearly not BoS at least. Well, they never got anything against augs since you can even spend 11 weeks improving yourself in Fallout 1.

Who? Zimmer had one bodyguard who maybe just a mercenary, IDK. Maxson? He have ones?
Well, about the brotherhood philosophy: it could be, but if it was, they'd simply seize the Institute's tech for themselves, not blow them up in the name of the "sanctity of human life". Instead, we've even got a monologue from Maxson, in which he says something in the likes of "He's a synth ! He wasn't born from the womb of a loving mother, but from the cold steel of the machine ! This deviant must be eradicated, he and all his pairs" when confronting Danse, if you decide to spare him. Which is fine, alright, but we don't really know why, and how this became the main philosophy of a faction, dedicated to preserving technology, including with augmented, cybernetic people. Hell, the Institute worked on Cybernetics too. Kellogg would be the wet dream of a fundamentalist brotherhood.

As for Zimmer, he talks about his bodyguard, Armitage, aka S3-47. A gen3 courser. He talks about it in front of everyone, in the middle of a city which is about to get annexed by the brotherhood, in the laboratory in which most scientists were under the patronage of the brotherhood, and in front of Fallout 3's hero, who is about to become quite important to the Lyons. Strange that nobody bats an eye about a machine wearing human flesh for so long, before suddenly deciding "Hey, remember this synth from ten years ago ? That was heresy ! Let's find out if they are still making those."
 
"He's a synth ! He wasn't born from the womb of a loving mother, but from the cold steel of the machine ! This deviant must be eradicated, he and all his pairs"
This is honestly one of the many scenes in Fallout 4 that should fall in hands of more competent writers. WTF " near Obsidian (c) @Tagaziel " here I don't know, Maxson is just screaming 'the youthful maximalism', after all he's only 20 yrs old, this whole 'Flesh is Flesh, Metal is Metal' thing doesn't co-exist with med. lab in Lost Hills or with the outpost in San Francisco. This character is clearly not competent leader in the times where there was no competent people around BoS after Lyons' death (or he rewrote the history to keep his ass on the throne). Hell, while he screams about tech gone too far (he had no opportunities to learn pre-war history, I'll give him that), Danse Danse Revolution and SS gives and gives points against Maxsons' walls of rage.
As for Zimmer, he talks about his bodyguard, Armitage, aka S3-47
Ah, yeah. Well, we should consider the fact that by 2277 the leader of BoS is still Lyons after all and Arthur gone nuts only after visiting commonwealth.

This is so cheaply crafted drama, the others in BoS are not any better than synths tbh since they are mindlessly follow anyone who conquer the leadership. We white knights heil lyons, oh I guess not, we fight heresy now. I bet if the player will dethrone Young Maximalist (Like s/he SHOULD but it was cut) and won't have anything against synths, others won't have any problems too.
 
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"He's a synth ! He wasn't born from the womb of a loving mother, but from the cold steel of the machine ! This deviant must be eradicated, he and all his pairs"

You know, when the BoS is ready and willing to fuckin' shoot 'n kill anyone suspected to be a synth (without even doing much research at all aside from some pointless documents that I think just said that if Danse was a synth he'd've been born on the same day he showed up to the BoS, or something. I mean it's not like synths are made by the hundreds daily or something. Noo, this one synth mentioned has to be Danse.) at the drop of a hat then it don't really seem much like a Brotherhood, now don't it. They seem more akin to the idiots of atom, who kill just to prove loyalties.

The BoS I know would've just sent Danse on a suicide mission in the Glowing Sea to test his loyalties.
 
Well maybe they should just stop trying to make rpgs because they're So bad at it.
They stopped with Oblivion though.

At least Fallout 4 is fun to play.
We did play the same game right? That banal shit was boring, it couldn't even get popamole right. It was an improvement from the FPS part of the series even though it isn't saying much and I've played much better FPS even if Nu-ID helped with F4.

As for the OP's question they could've started gathering resour--I got nothing. I don't even know how Boston is even surviving in the state it is in right now and why anyone would want to squat in such a shithole(considering that not a single person knows how to carpentry). Doesn't help that the Railroad cares more about synths then their own race, but as long as more humans can fuck robots instead of reproduce then who cares?
 
How would the Institute have even excavated new sections? I'm quite ignorant on underground construction so I'm probably wrong, but if they didn't venture topside whilst carrying out excavation (before the synths at least) what would they have done with all of the rock and soil they dug out?

Not to mention they'd need supports, air ventilation, tools to buil-forget it.

"We are Bethesda. We do not have to answer to you." seems like the answer we'd get if we got one.
 
We did play the same game right? That banal shit was boring, it couldn't even get popamole right. It was an improvement from the FPS part of the series even though it isn't saying much and I've played much better FPS even if Nu-ID helped with F4.
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You obviously never watched Hairy Potter. Father was a wizzard and he just used his wand to make everything appear. Synts, Scientists, Labs, water fountains and shitty writing.
 
Fallout was successful enough as it was. Fo4 made money sure but under the pretense that it was a fallout game not an TES 6.
Don't know where you got that idea, they were very clear about what direction they were taking the game in, was the dialogue wheel a staple of Fallout? Were power armour jetpacks? Settlement building? I don't think they even tried to cover it up, people went into denial about the state of the game independently, not because of some clever obfuscation of the core mechanics of the game.

To the people making fun of Tagaziel, this isn't middle school, don't be dicks.
 
Don't know where you got that idea, they were very clear about what direction they were taking the game in, was the dialogue wheel a staple of Fallout? Were power armour jetpacks? Settlement building? I don't think they even tried to cover it up, people went into denial about the state of the game independently, not because of some clever obfuscation of the core mechanics of the game.
Eh... Still. I wasn't expecting a good fallout game when I bought it. At the very least I was expecting something on par with fo3. It... I don't know who the fuck there were targeting. They act like hitting a target audience is difficult. Like trying to hit a puppy by throwing a live bee at it.
 
Eh... Still. I wasn't expecting a good fallout game when I bought it. At the very least I was expecting something on par with fo3. It... I don't know who the fuck there were targeting. They act like hitting a target audience is difficult. Like trying to hit a puppy by throwing a live bee at it.
Yeah, I think they tried to make the whole world their target but you just can't appeal to everyone, no matter how hard you try.
 
"We are Bethesda. We do not have to answer to you."
Please someone put Hines, Todd and Emil's faces on these guys, because that's exactly what I picture when I read your "We are Bethesda" :
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