Special Edition dev diary & Survival Edition announced

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whirlingdervish:
... So far all they are doing is hyping (read: lying)and concealing.

That's not marketing. ...

Note, when breathing the gases in a "post *modem*" age, I tend not to qualify marketing with any 2 dimensional value judgements.
Good nor bad.
Consider that if that white haired stunt double for Charlton Heston had ''had the technology'', The Ten Commandments would have been a ten page (plus) EULA.
Well, perhaps nesting the document in a Bible was as close as the prophets / profits could manage.

Since the 'fall', the fall of the Berlin Wall, we are all ... capitalists, and will do onto others as others will do onto us, I like to associate the questionable, situational ethics in marketing with "profiteering".
Then, because we all, all, all are to buy low, low, low, and sell high, high, high, I like associating this swashbuckling manifest destiny with the some outrageous romantic styling, the pirate is bloomed into a BUCCANEER!

... That's not marketing. ...

No Mister Dervish, 11 out of 10 brand ambassadors and 13 out of 10 buzz agents are acolytes in the reverent science of MARKET-EERING!

Inducements to buy ""... the wine before it's time"" have always been with 'us'. Part of the repertory of sales, think -capitalization- stratagems if you must sugar coat the 'pig in a poke'.

It's the romance of the chase.

It's the grip of the gamble.

It's the thrill of the shuffling shells as they sweep and dance about, right before our mesmerized eyes. Our deer in the headlights, mesmerized eyes.

zioburosky13:
...What's the point of getting all this ... when the rael meat (the game) is ... the original concept ...

I believe Mister 13's 'rael meat' may be the plastic disk conveyed --> game in the box.
The real game is selling the concept of what's in the box. What's in the box has become a "Craker-jack Prize".


Market-eering. The product becomes a mere abstraction during the sales push.
The codependent communication media is orchestrated into a chorus singing the praises of the alleged game in the box.
Marketeering is all about selling the abstract, the concept, the dream of what is in the box.
IF the singing and selling is conditioning the reality of the consumer,
then, what we see -- a belief system -- is what we get.

Unless the confines include all that's this side of "glory", meeting that white haired stunt double:
This marketing game is not the game ''in the box''.
This marketing gambit is bold and brazen behavioral modification.
The market-eering is a means justified by the end.
When market-eering, this real politic is misrepresentation by other means.

Marketeering, Marketeering Never Changes.




4too
 
Oh god. Apparently it's actually life-sized, and snaps open, and might actually do more than just be a clock. Well hell, I was thinking it was just a half-sized or smaller digital clock. Full sized clock and possibly radio and/or maybe more? Getting a little more tempting. Not that I'd ever wear it except behind closed doors in my underwear, but god damn that's kinda neat.
pipboyprototype_open.jpg
 
Man And Superman

Man And Superman



Jiggly McNerdington:
...Not that I'd ever wear it except behind closed doors in my underwear, but god damn that's kinda neat.

Each of the CE icons have the potential for excising a 'value added' exchange, but won't tax anyone more on 'post *modem*' market-eering.

Jiggly McNerdington, consider the pow-ah of fashion statement if you wore this accessory with the under wear on the outside of your leggings!

You too can be a action hero! ss..SSSUP-ERMANNnn..!

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4too
 
Mad Max RW said:
If they took the time to fit in a working am/fm radio, an alarm with a few different settings, snooze button, and a couple other basic things all cheap radio clocks have, I'd consider shelling $20 for one if it wasn't a terrible molded plastic like it probably is. Remember, they're charging $50 for just a clock.

The flask is a kickass idea.

Damn, people want a lot of a clock these days..

What happened to using them to display time? :lol:

New Uber Clock:
AM/FM Radio
8GB Onboard Solid State Memory
MP3, WMA, OGG, MOD, WMV, etc. Compatible. As alarm.
Auto-synchornization with Oracle or MySQL for up to the date alarms every single minute of your life
Automatic time synchronization with NIST
Automatic daylight savings time updates
Digital pen
Distillery
Pizza Oven

.. AND MUCH MORE.
 
DarkLegacy said:
Mad Max RW said:
If they took the time to fit in a working am/fm radio, an alarm with a few different settings, snooze button, and a couple other basic things all cheap radio clocks have, I'd consider shelling $20 for one if it wasn't a terrible molded plastic like it probably is. Remember, they're charging $50 for just a clock.

The flask is a kickass idea.

Damn, people want a lot of a clock these days..

What happened to using them to display time? :lol:

New Uber Clock:
AM/FM Radio
8GB Onboard Solid State Memory
MP3, WMA, OGG, MOD, WMV, etc. Compatible. As alarm.
Auto-synchornization with Oracle or MySQL for up to the date alarms every single minute of your life
Automatic time synchronization with NIST
Automatic daylight savings time updates
Digital pen
Distillery
Pizza Oven

.. AND MUCH MORE.

I dunno what you're talking about, but cheap radio clocks like what I described have been available for years. It's actually harder to find plain old digital clocks. I use one as my wake up alarm, and it's probably worth $2.
 
i'd buy the lunchbox with a rotten fucking sandwich in it if i knew the game was going to be worth it.

ffs. all i want is a good goddamn FALLOUT game. let the kiddies buy the other bullshit later. i mean...they're selling this shit pre-order without even letting anybody know what the minimum requirements are. i.e. they are selling this based solely on fan-boy "OMG MUST HAVES!!!" sentiments.

how gross can you get, bethie?
 
TwinkieGorilla said:
i'd buy the lunchbox with a rotten fucking sandwich in it if i knew the game was going to be worth it.

ffs. all i want is a good goddamn FALLOUT game. let the kiddies buy the other bullshit later. i mean...they're selling this shit pre-order without even letting anybody know what the minimum requirements are. i.e. they are selling this based solely on fan-boy "OMG MUST HAVES!!!" sentiments.

how gross can you get, bethie?

Well, it seems that their strategy works : the survival edition is currently ranked #12 in videogames sales at Amazon.com ... Can't understand how one can spend 120 dollars without even knowing how the game actually looks and plays. Did those guys really love Oblivion to bits ? Can Bethesda sell any piece of crap so long as it has their name written over it ? Jeez...
 
for only the clock (quality doubted) the increase in 50 is way to much
a load of other things should be included. good for them for getting a cool looking gimmick, the flask is a great idea
i was under the impression it would be a limited release....i guess not
meanwhile if you are going to pre order or buy the game asap and enjoy the clock why not get the insano package i just dont get how one extra thing is really that big an upgrade....give me flasks prints and posters!!! and maybe a blowup doll
 
hmmm, only ships in US and its a PS3 version...

50$ for the clock alone with a clock function is waaaaaaaaaay to high. Altough I must confess that I like that pipboy thingy, it should atleast some more features..
 
I don't think waterflasks will have a big significance in Fallout 3 (as compared to F2's storyline, that is).

The clock is indeed a nice gimmick, but overpriced.
 
yawn....

yet more garbage


when will we get some solid fo3 previews ffs, and not all the small shit that doesnt matter anyway..

money whores, hope they choke
 
Did I get this right?

They spent money and time developing THIS instead of making a good game?
 
To quote myself
ah c'mon people, I can't believe what I'm reading here. That CE sucks donkey balls. Ah making of DVD? colour me impressed....can't wait to watch the Toddler explaining step-by-step how he raped the Fallout franchise.

The art book looks more like a art pamphlet, what format is it, postcard size?

The booblehead? No comment...

Leaves us with the lunch box...uh, yeah, whatever I guess. Why actually a lunchbox? I don't really get the connection to Fallout, someone care to explain it to me?

To sum it up, even if this was the CE of a really great game and not of an abomination that will propably rape our all most favourite franchise, it still would suck because it has written "cheap crap sold to nerds= extra $$$" all over it. Compare it to the Age of Empires 3 or WOW CEs which offered a lot more stuff for a better price.

The point still stands. That clock looks so godamn cheap its not even funny anymore. It manages to make the CE look even more like cheap garbage ripp-off only basement dwelling nerds with too much cash from mommy would buy.

(NOTE: I don't think the concept of CEs is inherently bad, in fact I'm a sucker for good ones)

Pete Hines said:
At one point we seriously looked into the idea of building one that would actually work and interface with the game on some level. That turned out to be a huge problem technically - getting it to work on three different platforms, and 10,000 issues here and there. So we <s> went for the lamest possible solution and decided to include a cheap "made in Bangladesh" plastic clock with no additional fuction for the awesome price of only 50 US dollars</s> bagged that and just went back to the original idea of “something that looks just like the one in the game, and it sits on my desk
 
I won't believe that Beth is trying to rip their fans off (wich they would do by selling a cheap clock for 50USD), so either amazon got it wrong (wouldn't be the first time i guess), or the production of this clock is more expansive then we think and it might have some more functions as just showing the time....

But i'm maybe wrong... but until we get more informations, won't judge this news.
 
Ashmo said:
Did I get this right?

They spent money and time developing THIS instead of making a good game?

Nope, you didn't.
I'm quite sure they have their own people for such things, some that have almost no involvement in the production process :)
 
Ashmo said:
Did I get this right?

They spent money and time developing THIS instead of making a good game?

Money? Yes. But that's a separate investment supposed to pay itself back purely in SE pre-orders.

Development time? No. Unless you believe developers know how to work plastic molds.
 
I wouldn't want this gimmick stuff, even if they give it away for free. Because it will always remind me how unworthy this game was of it's name Fallout 3.
 
star said:
I wouldn't want this gimmick stuff, even if they give it away for free. Because it will always remind me how unworthy this game was of it's name Fallout 3.

Here we go, another reason for everyone out there to call us lunatics, rabid and whatever else he can come up with.
:clap:
 
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