Star Trek 11 or just plain 'Star Trek'

[The Dutch Ghost]

I guess Kirk was also more 'out there', still exploring what one day would become the Fed's borders while Picard and Co mostly seemed to go along it.

 

[Per]

- I cried manly tears when Leonard Nimoy appeared, loved the look when he saw young Jim (people unfamiliar with TOS probably won't appreciate it in the same way)

I didn't cry but it was certainly the best preformance in the movie, he was really outstanding.

Really? I didn't seem to detect much acting in his delivery.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

What did you think of the movie Per?

 

[UncannyGarlic]

Really? I didn't seem to detect much acting in his delivery.

Felt like Spock to me, except that I wasn't too fond of the encounter with his younger self at the end, though I think that has more to do with the writing than the acting.

 

[Per]

What did you think of the movie Per?

I'd give it 3/5, but I'm prone to overrating movies when I see them at the cinema (theater for the yanks).

 

[DJ Slamák]

So I see the Onion report was completely true. What a bummer. I want my heavy-handed messages about tolerance!

Also, [spoiler:f8d22847d2]REAL spoilers





what the heck was Pike's role? I just don't get it. He gets abducted and has the brain bug implanted (success is guaranteed, as seen in Wrath of Khan). Then he apparently tells Nero the code to the <s>air shield</s> planetary defenses, judging from the utter lack of planetary defenses later on. In the end, though, he isn't obedient at all, in fact he shoots some Romulan ass as soon as he has the chance - but wait, he's limp from the waist down. Why?

Also, did I get it right that Starfleet had ALL of its proper personnel tied up in the war in the ass end of space so they had to send CADETS to Vulcan? How retarded is that. Nero deserved to win.

And why did Spock just hand over his ship and let himself be marooned on an ice planet so he could watch the destruction of Vulcan in real time? NOT logical.

Oh, and I hope Nero killed the guy who designed the interior of his mining ship. Or do Romulans require a sustenance rich in railing?[/spoiler:f8d22847d2]

 

[[PCE]el_Prez]

I never watched ANY Star Trek show, however, I saw the film a couple days ago... Loved it.
[spoiler:65fcfa134b]
The part where Kirk beats the Kobayashi Maru test while eating an apple was classic![/spoiler:65fcfa134b]

 

[UniversalWolf]

Saw it, and I rather enjoyed it despite its many flaws.

[spoiler:94db63c7c9]what the heck was Pike's role? I just don't get it. He gets abducted and has the brain bug implanted (success is guaranteed, as seen in Wrath of Khan). Then he apparently tells Nero the code to the <s>air shield</s> planetary defenses, judging from the utter lack of planetary defenses later on. In the end, though, he isn't obedient at all, in fact he shoots some Romulan ass as soon as he has the chance - but wait, he's limp from the waist down. Why?

Also, did I get it right that Starfleet had ALL of its proper personnel tied up in the war in the ass end of space so they had to send CADETS to Vulcan? How retarded is that. Nero deserved to win.

And why did Spock just hand over his ship and let himself be marooned on an ice planet so he could watch the destruction of Vulcan in real time? NOT logical.

Oh, and I hope Nero killed the guy who designed the interior of his mining ship. Or do Romulans require a sustenance rich in railing?[/spoiler:94db63c7c9]

Those are all good points.

[spoiler:94db63c7c9]Everything that happens to Pike after he allows himself to be kidnapped is silly. It's a story thread that goes nowhere after it's introduced. The brain bug thing is a shameless ripoff of the famous scene from Wrath of Khan. Nero needs the security codes? Why? What defenses does the Federation have that can stop him whether or not he has the password? Also notice that aside from Kirk, no one even attempted to stop him.

I couldn't agree more about Nero's ship, by the way. So...it's a "mining ship" is it? On the outside, it looks like a demon claw, on the inside, it looks like an M.C. Escher. And it's armed with an apparently limitless supply of "torpedos."

Then again, I didn't expect a sterling plot. Overall I was pleasantly surprised by how much of the movie worked. I thought the guy who played Bones was great, and I also loved the Kobiyashi Maru part. Actually I was disappointed when they interrupted Kirk's defense of his actions. He should have and would have won the argument.[/spoiler:94db63c7c9]
As a shallow summer sci-fi action flick, I thought it was pretty good. There was nothing about it that was so bad it made me hate it, unlike most summer sci-fi action flicks (Transformers comes to mind - bleh).

 

[SimpleMinded]

To add to your list DJ Slamak...

[spoiler:2d0f8b5d56]How come the two guys were able to shoot down the drill with simple guns... but NOBODY on earth bothered shooting at it or anything?[/spoiler:2d0f8b5d56]

 

[I_eat_supermutants]

The truely bizzare part about this movie is the fact that non Trek fans are pouring into this movie.
Hell one of my friends whom even hates, and I mean HATES, sci-fi liked this one.
I myself can't stand Trek and well would probably be bored to death with the content alone. Despite there being Simon Pegg.

 

[UniversalWolf]

The truely bizzare part about this movie is the fact that non Trek fans are pouring into this movie.

Having seen it, I'm not that surprised. I don't think this movie goes out of its way to appeal to the nerd base at all. It's a lightweight summer action flick.

 

[Ausir]

10 000 Vulcans left? Not sure if I recall the number correctly. Did Vulcans not bother to colonize other planets?

Orci says the number includes only Vulcans from the homeworld itself, not any of the colonies.

 

[UniversalWolf]

10 000 Vulcans left? Not sure if I recall the number correctly. Did Vulcans not bother to colonize other planets?

Orci says the number includes only Vulcans from the homeworld itself, not any of the colonies.

[spoiler:ec0b1a2de8]I like how, marooned on the ice planet, Spock is close enough to the newly formed black hole that he can see it devour Vulcan, but he himself is in no danger.[/spoiler:ec0b1a2de8]

 

[Sander]

[spoiler:2e70a1bd3d]I like how, marooned on the ice planet, Spock is close enough to the newly formed black hole that he can see it devour Vulcan, but he himself is in no danger.[/spoiler:2e70a1bd3d]

[spoiler:2e70a1bd3d]Ehm, yeah, that was why Nero marooned him there instead of somewhere else[/spoiler:2e70a1bd3d]

 

[Per]

The writers have their own extraordinary definitions of "black hole", "supernova" and "singularity" to name a few.

Later in the movie,

[spoiler:cf0e4d43aa]Nero's ship is half inside a black hole and he still has time to chitchat (which is not money), and Kirk still offers to pull him out, but after he declines the Enterprise can't pull away even though they're not half inside the black hole, but then they do because of an explosion that doesn't blow them up like explosions otherwise usually do.[/spoiler:cf0e4d43aa]

I mean, wat.

 

[UncannyGarlic]

Yeah, it was pretty damn strange that they decided that blackholes would work for time travel in the movie and that ships could just fly right through them without damage. It was also strange considering that they used temporal vortexes to time travel up until that point and, if I'm not mistaken, treated black holes with respect. Then again, I guess if they can fly around the sun fast and time travel (STIV) then using a black hole for the same purpose fits.

 

[Crni Vuk]

The writers have their own extraordinary definitions of "black hole", "supernova" and "singularity" to name a few.

Later in the movie,

[spoiler:2f0dd3f2df]Nero's ship is half inside a black hole and he still has time to chitchat (which is not money), and Kirk still offers to pull him out, but after he declines the Enterprise can't pull away even though they're not half inside the black hole, but then they do because of an explosion that doesn't blow them up like explosions otherwise usually do.[/spoiler:2f0dd3f2df]

I mean, wat.

Alright no need to watch the movie, I heard already the BEST part of it !

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

[spoiler:dc5e7c6bf9]Ah yes, blowing up engine parts to ride the shockwave out of the black hole.

Aren't these, you know, almost the most destructive and inescapable stellar phenomenons in the universe?

It would make more sense that they would try to warp out, risking blowing up the warp core because of the strong nearby gravity source.[/spoiler:dc5e7c6bf9]

 

[Daimyo]

I thought the guy who played Bones was great

I am a fan of Karl Urban as well.

I have never been a real Star Trek fan and can therefore not comment on consistency to the canon etc, but saw this movie and loved it despite its logical flaws.

All in all a fun movie

 

[UniversalWolf]

[spoiler:3085429977]I like how, marooned on the ice planet, Spock is close enough to the newly formed black hole that he can see it devour Vulcan, but he himself is in no danger.[/spoiler:3085429977]

[spoiler:3085429977]Ehm, yeah, that was why Nero marooned him there instead of somewhere else[/spoiler:3085429977]

[spoiler:3085429977]If you can see the black hole don't you think you might be too close to survive the black hole?

Then again, as others have already pointed out, the nature of black holes in this movie seems to shift to fit the needs of the story.

Still, that ice planet would have to be extremely close to Vulcan for Vulcan to be as large in the sky as it is (sorry, was). No wonder there's "a Federation outpost" there. [/spoiler:3085429977]

I have never been a real Star Trek fan and can therefore not comment on consistency to the canon etc, but saw this movie and loved it despite its logical flaws.

That was my reaction too. I'm not sure why the logical flaws don't bother me so much in this movie, because they probably would bother me in another movie. Might be because this Star Trek isn't pretentious, and the parts that aren't absurd are entertaining.