System Of A down

Well I didn't read through all the Metallica posts, just enough of them to see where everyones coming from.

I just wanted to state a few points, and opinions...

Their music is the only music I have ever truly connected with in a way where I will never tire of hearing it. They inspired me to start playing guitar many, many years ago, and for that I am ever grateful.

I also do not believe that they were trying to go for a more mainstream sound with albums like "Black Album,Load,Reload and St.Anger"

I remember buying each of those albums within the first week they came out, and I thought then, and still think now, that they sounded very unique and like nothing on the radio at the present time.

Although, don't get me wrong, I can understand where a lot of the ex-fans are coming from, Metallica did drastically change their sound over the years, and the word drastically is an understatement.

Some people just dont like change, and thats cool, you got 1 life, might as well stick with what you like. Me however, I'll groove with Metallica through all the thrash, the melodic, the hillbilly and garage metal sounds, they have gone through.

and the moment their music stops clicking with me, I'll stop listening. But that doesn't mean, I'll rip on them. I just know they wanted to try something different, and it wasn't for me.

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Now onto System Of A Down....

I think their music is very interesting and chock full of talent.

The vocalist has one very chaotic style, which I think is pretty exciting and fun to listen to. The instruments aren't spectacular, but they can play, and even out-play a lot of their radio-rivals.

However, I am a man of variety, I need it, I want it, and System of A Down, has a hard time holding my attention. A lot of the songs sound a little too similiar.
 
Gravedig

You know, i was pretty indifferent to System of a Down for the most part. I heard some of their older stuff and liked parts of their music, although i thought they tried too many style shifts in individual songs. But have you heard their latest single, "Lonely Day"? Wow.....that just might be...one of the worst songs ever made (without the possibility of the so-bad-it's-good factor)

First, let's look at the profound message this song conveys:

Lonely Day said:
Such a lonely day
And its mine
The most loneliest day of my life

Such a lonely day
Should be banned
This day that I can't stand

The most loneliest day of my life
The most loneliest day of my life

Such a lonely day
Shouldn't exist
A day that Ill never miss
Such a lonely day
And its mine
The most loneliest day of my life

And if you go, I wanna go with you
And if you die, I wanna die with you

Take your hand and walk away

The most loneliest day of my life
The most loneliest day of my life
The most loneliest day of my life
Life

Such a lonely day
And its mine
A day that I'm glad I survived
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That's it. Those are the lyrics.

You know who these lyrics remind me of? Me...when i was 11 years old and i just learned to play some basic chords on the guitar. I was so excited that i could make up some music on my own that i just wanted to put together some lyrics and claim i wrote an entire song. What mattered to me was that the lyrics rhymed and that they made some sense. Pretty similar to "Lonely Day" if you ask me. "Banned" and "stand" do rhyme, and having a lonely day does make sense. But hey, aren't these guys like professional musicians...with experience?

But let's put the lyrics aside for a sec, since SOAD hardly ever had a reputation for their lyrics. ("why dont the presidents fight the war?" Wow SOAD, you just blew my mind with that original and thought provoking inquiry) Does "Lonely Day" at least make up for these crappy lyrics with some fine music/melody? Hardly. Basic chords and combinations used millions of times in the past. And the melody, in addition to that annoying whiny voice, barely anything remarkable or even mediocre in complexity. It's a little harder to sing than "Mary had a little lamb" though.

I really have nothing against simple songs. I love almost every Nirvana song, and yet most of their songs use only basic chords and have simple, almost random, lyrics. Kurt Cobain even admitted (especially with his early songs) that he often just kind of put words together to make up lyrics. The song Sifting is one example. Random rhymes put together. But you know, despite the randomness, the word combinations are interesting and pretty amusing. You could potentially even try to untangle some riddle from those lyrics. But "Lonely day"? There's really no riddle there. It couldn't be any more clearer. It's like some boring office small talk. "Looks like someone's got a case of the Mondays"

But you know what the worst part is? That "Lonely day" is a fucking single!! I mean, let's say this song was just some Album filler, you know putting in a stupid track so they can have X number of total songs. That's pretty shitty in itself. But no, they made a video for this song! It's getting radio play! So they consider it a worthy song? What the hell is going on? I mean, how brain damaged do you have to be to hear this song and then conclude "yeah, let's make this one stand out". It should be like some hidden track of shame if anything at all.

So SOAD, you sucketh.
 
Ahh, nothing like a musical flame war. I have enjoyed some of SOADs music. I'm not really sure what "genre' they fall into but to be sure, they are not heavy enough for me. And I was amused by Sander's SA article. If anyone here has bad taste in music, it's me. How many of you listen to Bathtub Shitter?

One, One, One,
You Have Shat On A Stroll With Me
Bow Wow, Bow,
That Cleaning Was My Job For Fifteen Years

Piss For Own Territory
You Were Free To Shit
On The Park, On My Bed, Everywhere
This Collar Was Not To Bind
Wanted To Feel Vibration Of Your Shitting
Every Time
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Talk about bad lyrics...
 
SOAD are good musicians, I guess, but it's a sound I care very little for. Boring.

Bathtub Shitter are awesome, but they certainly aren't Anal Cunt:

First you fucked a nigger, you ugly fucking whore
Ran out of men in Canada and came here for more
You could shower all your life and you'd never get clean
Because you fucked someone that wore afro-sheen

I hope you get deported, you make me sick, I hope you get deported, you sucked a nigger's dick

You've got no life and you talk to your pets
I hate you so much I wan't to call the INS
You work at a snack bar and your father pays your rent
Over the border's where i hope you get sent

I hope you get deported, you make me sick, I hope you get deported, you sucked a nigger's dick
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Jack Kevorkian Rules

first you killed an old person
then you went to jail
then you killed another
when you got out on bail

old people suck, kevorkian rules, old people suck, jack kevorkian's cool

you're in jail again
because you wouldn't sell out
let's get a bulldozer
and break him out
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You're an Orphan

too bad your mother never learned to drive
maybe if she did, your parents would still be alive
now they're dead, and your sister too
now you're an orphan, we'll make fun of you

you are an orphan [x4]
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I thought you were a fat chick
Then I realised you were pregnant
I thought it would be funny if your baby died
So I kicked you in the stomach

I kicked you, your baby's dead
I kicked you, your baby's dead
I kicked you, your baby's dead
Ha ha ha, your baby's dead!

There were no stairs to throw you down
There was no roof to throw you off
There were no coat hangers around
So I kicked you in the stomach

I kicked you, your baby's dead!
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Malkavian said:
SOAD are good musicians, I guess, but it's a sound I care very little for. Boring.
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Kind of the same conclusion I've gotten too. Not to bad, but a litle too much nu metal shit in it...Can't beat Linkin Park in crappyness though :roll:
 
This is possibly the funniest thing I read in my life:

Mistaking System of a Down lyrics for deep, which thousands of feckless, virginal Hot Topic pantywaists do every day, requires a level of confusion so severe and overriding that I’m surprised they even manage to drop out of high school properly (I’d think they’d fuck up dropping out so bad that they’d wind up with a Master’s Degree).
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At first I thought calling System of a Down lyrics College Bullshit was fitting, but after a little thinking it's more like High School Bullshit.

Let's take a look at the ever-popular Chop Suey:

Wake up,
Grab a brush and put a little (makeup),
Grab a brush and put a little,
Hide the scars to fade away the (shakeup)
Hide the scars to fade away the,
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table?
Here you go create another fable

You wanted to,
Grab a brush and put a little makeup,
You wanted to,
Hide the scars to fade away the shakeup,
You wanted to,
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table,
You wanted to,

I don't think you trust,
In, my, self righteous suicide,
I, cry, when angels deserve to die, Die,

Wake up,
Grab a brush and put a little (makeup),
Grab a brush and put a little,
Hide the scars to fade away the (shakeup)
Hide the scars to fade away the,
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table?
Here you go create another fable

You wanted to,
Grab a brush and put a little makeup,
You wanted to,
Hide the scars to fade away the shakeup,
You wanted to,
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table,
You wanted to,

I don't think you trust,
In, my, self righteous suicide,
I, cry, when angels deserve to die
In my, self righteous suicide,
I, cry, when angels deserve to die

Father, Father, Father, Father,
Father/ Into your hands/I/commend my spirit,
Father, into your hands,

Why have you forsaken me,
In your eyes forsaken me,
In your thoughts forsaken me,
In your heart forsaken, me oh,

Trust in my self righteous suicide,
I, cry, when angels deserve to die,
In my self righteous suicide,
I, cry, when angels deserve to die.
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What the fuck is this mess? Apparently the song is about some chick who gets the crap beaten out of her for some menial bullshit, and that's all the song talks about. Throw in a reference to Jesus dying, and apparently the girl is like Jesus, but it's a self-righteous suicide, so she'll kill herself, and she has no reason to do so.

Except, of course, for the fact that she's in an abusive relationship (apparently). Also Jesus is apparently bullshit.

Thanks for nothing.

Next we have Boom! from the charmingly titled "Steal This Album":

I've been walking through your streets,
Where all your money's earning,
Where all your building's crying
And clueless neckties working,
Revolving fake lawn houses,
Housing all your fears,
Desensitized by TV,
Overbearing advertising,
God of consumerism,
And all your crooked pictures
Looking good, mirrorism,
Filtering information,
For the public eye,
Designed for profiteering,
Your neighbor, what a guy.

BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM,
Every time you drop the bomb,
You kill the god your child has born,
BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.

Modern globalization,
Coupled with condemnations,
Unnecessary death,
Matador corporations,
Puppeting your frustrations,
With the blinded flag,
Manufacturing consent,
Is the name of the game,
The bottom line is money,
Nobody gives a fuck.
4000 hungry children leave us per hour,
From starvation,
While billions are spent on bombs,
Creating death showers.

BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM,
Every time you drop the bomb,
You kill the god your child has born,
BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM
BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM

Why, why, why, why must we kill, kill, kill, kill
Our own, own, own, own kind...

BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM,
Every time you drop the bomb,
You kill the god your child has born,
BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM
BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM
Every time you drop the bomb.
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A song with lots of topics and no direction. Consumerism is bad, apparently, and your neighbors profit from it. Also there's some bombs and money to be had in it. Is your neighbor in the arms industry? Who knows? (the Shadow Knows)

We're all distracted by tv, and as we consume wars go on that we're apparently unaware of. We should also feed babies instead of kill them.

Thank you, System of a Down, for telling me what I've already heard through the megaphone of some Greenpeace dyke.

I'm not even going to touch on consumerism, and the titling of the album "Steal This Album."
 
Malkavian said:
SOAD are good musicians, I guess, but it's a sound I care very little for. Boring.

Bathtub Shitter are awesome, but they certainly aren't Anal Cunt:
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Dude, grindcore, yech.

Still, too many Dutch bands that need translating for awesome lyrics. Hell, any band with a song about crapping in someone's head (De Raggende Mannen) has to be brilliant.
 
I grew up liking Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, and Pantera and moved into Prong, NIN, Ministry, KMFDM and side projects, 16 Volt, etc. I like lots of shit, even Linkin Park and Nickelback once in a while. I don't listen to the radio, so I don't get burnt out on these bands either.

SOAD is great, not because they're deep. It's because they're unique, silly, and still sometimes convey a message. Maybe you guys are all serious when it comes to music, but I like a little variety in style and a more light-hearted approach at times.
 
Blink 182 is lighthearted. SOAD is just a bunch of losers with no idea what they're doing, and that sell well to morons, no offense.

If SOAD was honestly making a lighthearted approach, then they wouldn't be trying to convey messages.
 
Sander said:
Dude, grindcore, yech.
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Not a Carcass fan? Tsk.

Bradylama said:
Blink 182 is lighthearted. SOAD is just a bunch of losers with no idea what they're doing, and that sell well to morons, no offense.

If SOAD was honestly making a lighthearted approach, then they wouldn't be trying to convey messages.
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Tr00th.
 
Well, I see nonsensical songs like "Vicinity of Obscenity" of SOAD's as entertaining, kind of like how some of the members here see 4too's prose as brilliant.

And just because I like them, or you may like some strange prose doesn't make us idiots. Like how not everyone who likes Oblivion is an idiot, just most of them. ;)
 
I've got prison song video from concert.

Daron Malakian said:
We came here to play our songs... and let you BE... we care about you... I think it's too hot today... If u like... like a prison... like a prison....
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Kahgan said:
Nothing beats viking metal though, arr...
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Ehehehe. Finntroll!
Folk metal has got to be the weirdest kind of metal. People standing around dressed as vikings on stage..
 
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