Tablets and multitouch

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by babadook, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. babadook

    babadook Legislative Senator oTO Orderite

    Apr 2, 2005
    So, with a new multitouch ipod out there my mind started spinning again. I've been craving a screen with good tablet features for ages and with all these new gadgets popping out it seems closer than ever before.

    Nothing of this is "new" but don't hang me just yet. My question is basically, which ones do we know of so far? Could we gather some of the neat ones and sum them up somehow?

    Wacom:
    Wacom produces a number of tablets with visual display.
    Cintiq 21UX
    They do make some quality stuff, and I bet this monster is just as good. The price is not cool however. Some day maybe.
    http://www.wacom.com/cintiq/


    Microsoft:
    Surface
    Most of us have heard of the Microsoft surface I guess (a.k.a. the coffey table). Still in pre-production.

    Cheap alternative
    This idea seems like a great one. Still in it's cradle though.


    Apple:
    Mouse
    Apple is rumoured to work on some type of multitouch screen for a computer. (Well, duh)
    But in the meantime they might even do a mouse

    Rosie ("Apple powered")
    Another coffee table!


    Sharp:
    12"
    They are only doing smaller screens at the moment. Sharps multitouch LCD
    weird, but cool (?!)


    Sahara Slate PC
    As the name says
    Not exactly what I was looking for, but still a pretty cool way to present it.

    Pico:
    Pucks and magnetism
    Still looks way to unpolished to be useful but who knows, Pico at Innovation


    Homemade:
    There are numerous ways to build your own device, but for us with a repair of 1 we should either turn to ebay or wait.
    1. so... bulky
    2. Interesting to say the least. But can one do it?
    Googleing "multitouch" will give you several examples of this.


    These where just a few examples I've come across lately. Have anyone of you ever tried a tablet that you could recommend?
    I am basically on the hunt for more info regarding any type of tablet where you get visual feedback directly at the point of pressure (like a screen).
    I am still looking for examples made by asus, since they have made some pretty neat tablet pcs so far.
     
  2. Kyuu

    Kyuu Insert Awesome Title Here

    Jul 19, 2007
    That is truly awesome. Me wants that mouse.
     
  3. xdarkyrex

    xdarkyrex Vault Senior Citizen

    Aug 28, 2006
    the best of those that i know of so far is by far the cintiq, it is a great tool for anyone who would need a tablet/


    I personally love tablets to death, its so much more intuitive than a mouse, plus for my graphics design and art new media work nothing vcan beat it.
     
  4. Wooz

    Wooz Vault Sweeper Admin Orderite

    May 18, 2003
    Myeah.

    I'll still wait a few years before buying a Cintiq, thankye.

    Anyway, care to show off your art, newb?
     
  5. xdarkyrex

    xdarkyrex Vault Senior Citizen

    Aug 28, 2006
    :lol: No.
     
  6. victor

    victor Antediluvian as Feck
    Orderite

    Dec 12, 2003
    Ugh.

    So, anyway, I was thinking of getting a tablet for sketching purposes. I like the pen with built-in eraser concept that I've seen some places, other than that I don't know anything at all about tablets in general. Not sure what price range I should go for. Any suggestions?
     
  7. Wooz

    Wooz Vault Sweeper Admin Orderite

    May 18, 2003
    Pick up a Wacom Graphire to start with. If you're into serious business, pick up a Wacom Intuos.
     
  8. victor

    victor Antediluvian as Feck
    Orderite

    Dec 12, 2003
    I study Industrial design, but I'm at the early phase of my product sketching career, so I don't need high tech stuff, probably never will. These seem pretty cool, despite the pretty big price difference between them. What's the major advantage of widescreen over 4:3? Is it unnecessary if you have a 4:3 screen(s)? Which one do you have?
     
  9. Wooz

    Wooz Vault Sweeper Admin Orderite

    May 18, 2003
    The wha?

    I've got an Intuos 3 A4, and an absolutely gargantuan Eizo T965 monitor which rocksors major bocksors.

    The thing with tablets is that there really isn't an alternative to Wacom. For sketching purposes, a Graphire tablet is both affordable and good. Cheap tablets have so little Pressure Points per Inch that they don't make a straight line, it goes all wobbly even if you draw it with a ruler.
     
  10. victor

    victor Antediluvian as Feck
    Orderite

    Dec 12, 2003
    Ok. so what's the minimum pressure points per inch I'm looking for, considering I'll need to draw plenty of very straight lines? Oh, and I want good colouring capabilities.
     
  11. xdarkyrex

    xdarkyrex Vault Senior Citizen

    Aug 28, 2006

    The general rule is to go look at the wacom pads, check the wire resolution, and use that for the basis of comparison
     
  12. Wooz

    Wooz Vault Sweeper Admin Orderite

    May 18, 2003
    Dude. Buy a Wacom Graphire. End of story.

    About the colouring capabilities, that depends on the program you use to draw, not on the tablet.
     
  13. xdarkyrex

    xdarkyrex Vault Senior Citizen

    Aug 28, 2006
    I found a wacom graphire online for $60 on amazon.com, I'm sure you can find it cheaper on ebay or craigslist
     
  14. Maphusio

    Maphusio Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Sep 25, 2004
    I want that mouse to replace my craptacular iMAC mouse!
     
  15. Arachnivore

    Arachnivore First time out of the vault

    89
    Feb 13, 2006
    You know, there's a little community devoted to building inexpensive, home-made Cintiqs. Some of the projects can get pretty technical but you might want to check it out.

    I'm planning on building one of my own in the coming weeks. I'll post a link to my build log when I finish.
     
  16. babadook

    babadook Legislative Senator oTO Orderite

    Apr 2, 2005
    awesome! I would love to see that!
     
  17. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    I have a Wacom Volito and a Wacom Volito 2. They are the cheapest ones out there (especially that first Volito, I only paid 30€ for that, I think), but they do what I want them to do, so I'm not complaining. I only need them for colouring anyway.
    Follow Wooz' advice, he's in the know.
     
  18. babadook

    babadook Legislative Senator oTO Orderite

    Apr 2, 2005
    :shock: I'm amazed.

    add: and yet another hour later I realise I've been there before. Still, really excellent stuff. I stand in ave.
     
  19. Wooz

    Wooz Vault Sweeper Admin Orderite

    May 18, 2003
    Hmmm. Interesting link, but I'm curious about those things' capabilities, lag time, and whether they sense pen tilt.
     
  20. Arachnivore

    Arachnivore First time out of the vault

    89
    Feb 13, 2006
    I haven't read about any problems w/ pen tilt or lag on the bongofish forums (although the DIY multi-touch stuff i've seen has terrible lag). The big problem they seem to have is electrical interference. Some of the projects suffer from the pen "jittering" and "clicking" (which i think means the buttons on the pen register a phantom click). You have to make sure you shield the extra electronics with out shielding the tablet sensor. Most of the builds I've seen eventually get around this problem. A good way to fix the problem is to replace the back-light with LEDs (which don't require a high voltage inverter).

    Personally, I think the boost in intuitiveness could easily justify a minor drop in quality. But then again, I'm not a professional.