Talking Heads

Eiminkääntekijä said:
I thought I'd chime in with my latest creation for MR... still work in progress though ;)

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Faggotness 10/10.

Seriously, guys, this is crap. Looks like Wolna or Haris made it.

Continuum said:
metzger.png


Good? Shitty? Great improvement? Shitty improvement? etc.?
Classy. But what's the left eye still doing in the eye spot? Now get the fucking eyeball out! :D
 
Jesterka said:
Eiminkääntekijä said:
I thought I'd chime in with my latest creation for MR... still work in progress though ;)

latest_test.gif
Faggotness 10/10.

Seriously, guys, this is crap. Looks like Wolna or Haris made it.

You better be joking. Harris was a terrible artist and the only TH he made where cut outs he scanned from magazines he found on the street. Wolna has a good heart, but his TH looked bad and they had no animations.
 
Lets say it this way: I've never seen really sufficient animated amateur talking head. Only a couple of good static pieces (Mad_Eyes', Conties', and especially last MR newspost pre-made character punks).

Ad Haris vs Wolna vs faggot-looking fella: crap or super crap, doesn't matter. Just get rid of it.

Also, at least Haris' methods were pretty funny, this is just "WTF"... My opinion. Farewell.

EDIT Okay, I know snubbing gfx volunteers is hard (if you've got heart). That's most probably the core of the whole problem.
 
You better be joking. Harris was a terrible artist and the only TH he made where cut outs he scanned from magazines he found on the street. Wolna has a good heart, but his TH looked bad and they had no animations.

Seconded.

Ad Haris vs Wolna vs faggot-looking fella: crap or super crap, doesn't matter. Just get rid of it.

I must have missed the day you overthrew me as Lord High Commander of MR. Oh, wait, it didnt happen.

What about this one?

Much better contie - super improvement on the other one. If no one else wants it, I do!!

Lets say it this way: I've never seen really sufficient animated amateur talking head. Only a couple of good static pieces (Mad_Eyes', Conties', and especially last MR newspost pre-made character punks).

Well, we now have four in MR and more in progress. :D
 
'the hell? I see a gold, I comment it positively. I see a crap, I comment it negatively. Nothing personal. Work on your overflowing angriness, guys.

I'd rather focus on one good-looking head. :wink:

My last faggot related post here. Run, Contie, run! The whole thread is yours!
 
guys whats up?^^

i am not a 3d artist, and the TH'S were my first mod for fallout. It was a portrait mod, so not animated. Only Metzger was animated, by Jostitz and as i said again, this pic is only a early preview.
 
yes contie, make this similar to this but not so crappy. :roll:

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i woudl say, yor metzger model needs defenely more beard.

of course a branding of the slaverguild on the forehead and lots of more scares, like in the description.

and he looks to fat to me(cheecks) i thing to hunt wilds is a good work out. :wink:
 
Eiminkääntekijä said:
I thought I'd chime in with my latest creation for MR... still work in progress though ;)

latest_test.gif

Aside from slightly weird mouth and emo expression on the face looks like young Viggo Mortensen to me. Don't get what is particularly "not fallouty" or "faggoty" about this face though. Just weird expression, that is all.
 
Continuum said:
No offense taken!

Ban him! Immediately!

:ugly:

Seriously, it was kinda WIPie, I checked results of my a day before yesterday work with lights and some colors over the face and I thought I'll post it here :hide:

What about this one?

metzger.png


Good? Shitty? Great improvement? Shitty improvement? etc.?

I don't know why, but looks a bit artifiacial to me. The first shot looked more "human". Could just be the lighting and overall "cleaner" look though.
 
I think the most important quality in a talking head is that the head has very distinct features. Look at Decker, the man is totally evil, and when you first see him you know it. Too many faces seem too soft and have not enough damaged features (wrinkles, lines, deep sunken eyes, smashed noses) to make them all the more believable. Model makers smash the shit out of those faces, and never create a symmetrical face, always twist one side up or down slightly, no face is perfectly symmetrical. If someone builds a fagoty head that’s OK, as long it’s for a fagoty character, Davin for instance.
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Aside from slightly weird mouth and emo expression on the face looks like young Viggo Mortensen to me. Don't get what is particularly "not fallouty" or "faggoty" about this face though. Just weird expression, that is all.

the one problem we have is that the fallout engine is shit. Most talking heads have no hair or short hair ias anmating the hair in the frm is a pain!

The second problem is - fallout fans are the most difficult to please. We are critical of the smallest deviations from what is considered fallout. :D
 
Chris Parks said:
The second problem is - fallout fans are the most difficult to please. We are critical of the smallest deviations from what is considered fallout. :D

That's because we all love this game so! The defining halmark of Fallout (1+2) is its accomplishment in creating an atmosphere - an emersive world. It does this by very stubtle yet simple means by today's gaming standards. So yes, to maintain that level of quality you have to be highly critical! I guess that doesn't always make it easy for the artists and modders creating new stuff, but what I'm saying is - it shouldn't be. Fallout is too much of a class act for that! But when people get it right, like killap, Timeslip and Contiuum (and many others) have done so many times, we do give them recognition!
 
Still, constructive criticism and statements like "Faggotness 10/10." are two entirely different beasts. The latter is all the more weird coming from a guy, who is a modder himself. Petty bickering and feuding like that will certainly help no modding community.
 
After looking at others comments, I think, you just scored the most annoying personality of 2010 prize, Lizard :salute:

Judge: Lizard
Verdict: guilty of faggotness and conspiracy with Haris. Sentenced for 10 years of slavery in BGE.

Without Lizard this forum would be such boring place. We love you, Lizzie (no sarcasm here).


.Pixote. said:
I think the most important quality in a talking head is that the head has very distinct features. Look at Decker, the man is totally evil, and when you first see him you know it.
I'm trying to keep my mouth shut, and not comment someone else work, but since people commenting my why I shouldn't comment others. So... Can someone show where do you see sadism and evil on these "expressions" of Mr. Metzger? Because I can't. That superior product is lacking everything what TH should have. From decent modeling, through lighting, texturing, animations, and ending on rendering - some re-paint + copy & paste - awesome work, indeed.

So the statement that fallout fans are the most difficult to please is false - people will accept everything, no matter how shitty it is. Trust me, I do know what I'm talking about.

*waiting for Lizard* :dance:
 
Jesterka said:
Faggotness 10/10.

Seriously, guys, this is crap. Looks like Wolna or Haris made it.
Let's see if you can do it better. From scratch, IN A DAY!

Tolknaz said:
Aside from slightly weird mouth and emo expression on the face looks like young Viggo Mortensen to me. Don't get what is particularly "not fallouty" or "faggoty" about this face though. Just weird expression, that is all.
And you are not going to see this particular expression in the actual TH in the game.

:evil:
 
So the statement that fallout fans are the most difficult to please is false - people will accept everything, no matter how shitty it is. Trust me, I do know what I'm talking about.

Nah, that's nonsense.

if I made a talking head that looked like this...

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I'm pretty sure the fallout community will not be happy at all. :D
 
Tolknaz said:
Still, constructive criticism and statements like "Faggotness 10/10." are two entirely different beasts.

Oops didn't read that comment. Totally agree that's way out of line!
 
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