Talking Heads

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by Continuum, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. Jesterka

    Jesterka Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Mar 16, 2006
    Faggotness 10/10.

    Seriously, guys, this is crap. Looks like Wolna or Haris made it.

    Classy. But what's the left eye still doing in the eye spot? Now get the fucking eyeball out! :D
     
  2. Dude101

    Dude101 Vault Fossil
    Modder

    Aug 3, 2005
    You better be joking. Harris was a terrible artist and the only TH he made where cut outs he scanned from magazines he found on the street. Wolna has a good heart, but his TH looked bad and they had no animations.
     
  3. Jesterka

    Jesterka Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Mar 16, 2006
    Lets say it this way: I've never seen really sufficient animated amateur talking head. Only a couple of good static pieces (Mad_Eyes', Conties', and especially last MR newspost pre-made character punks).

    Ad Haris vs Wolna vs faggot-looking fella: crap or super crap, doesn't matter. Just get rid of it.

    Also, at least Haris' methods were pretty funny, this is just "WTF"... My opinion. Farewell.

    EDIT Okay, I know snubbing gfx volunteers is hard (if you've got heart). That's most probably the core of the whole problem.
     
  4. Chris Parks

    Chris Parks Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 10, 2006
    Seconded.

    I must have missed the day you overthrew me as Lord High Commander of MR. Oh, wait, it didnt happen.

    Much better contie - super improvement on the other one. If no one else wants it, I do!!

    Well, we now have four in MR and more in progress. :D
     
  5. Jesterka

    Jesterka Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Mar 16, 2006
    'the hell? I see a gold, I comment it positively. I see a crap, I comment it negatively. Nothing personal. Work on your overflowing angriness, guys.

    I'd rather focus on one good-looking head. :wink:

    My last faggot related post here. Run, Contie, run! The whole thread is yours!
     
  6. Mr.Wolna

    Mr.Wolna Vault Senior Citizen

    Nov 15, 2007
    guys whats up?^^

    i am not a 3d artist, and the TH'S were my first mod for fallout. It was a portrait mod, so not animated. Only Metzger was animated, by Jostitz and as i said again, this pic is only a early preview.
     
  7. Demonslayer

    Demonslayer Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Aug 8, 2005
    I also agree on the removal of the eye ;o
     
  8. Mr.Wolna

    Mr.Wolna Vault Senior Citizen

    Nov 15, 2007
    yes contie, make this similar to this but not so crappy. :roll:



    i woudl say, yor metzger model needs defenely more beard.

    of course a branding of the slaverguild on the forehead and lots of more scares, like in the description.

    and he looks to fat to me(cheecks) i thing to hunt wilds is a good work out. :wink:
     
  9. Tolknaz

    Tolknaz First time out of the vault

    Oct 11, 2009
    Aside from slightly weird mouth and emo expression on the face looks like young Viggo Mortensen to me. Don't get what is particularly "not fallouty" or "faggoty" about this face though. Just weird expression, that is all.
     
  10. Tolknaz

    Tolknaz First time out of the vault

    Oct 11, 2009
    I don't know why, but looks a bit artifiacial to me. The first shot looked more "human". Could just be the lighting and overall "cleaner" look though.
     
  11. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder

    Sep 14, 2009
    I think the most important quality in a talking head is that the head has very distinct features. Look at Decker, the man is totally evil, and when you first see him you know it. Too many faces seem too soft and have not enough damaged features (wrinkles, lines, deep sunken eyes, smashed noses) to make them all the more believable. Model makers smash the shit out of those faces, and never create a symmetrical face, always twist one side up or down slightly, no face is perfectly symmetrical. If someone builds a fagoty head that’s OK, as long it’s for a fagoty character, Davin for instance.
     
  12. Chris Parks

    Chris Parks Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 10, 2006
    the one problem we have is that the fallout engine is shit. Most talking heads have no hair or short hair ias anmating the hair in the frm is a pain!

    The second problem is - fallout fans are the most difficult to please. We are critical of the smallest deviations from what is considered fallout. :D
     
  13. fortyseven

    fortyseven First time out of the vault

    Nov 19, 2008
    That's because we all love this game so! The defining halmark of Fallout (1+2) is its accomplishment in creating an atmosphere - an emersive world. It does this by very stubtle yet simple means by today's gaming standards. So yes, to maintain that level of quality you have to be highly critical! I guess that doesn't always make it easy for the artists and modders creating new stuff, but what I'm saying is - it shouldn't be. Fallout is too much of a class act for that! But when people get it right, like killap, Timeslip and Contiuum (and many others) have done so many times, we do give them recognition!
     
  14. Tolknaz

    Tolknaz First time out of the vault

    Oct 11, 2009
    Still, constructive criticism and statements like "Faggotness 10/10." are two entirely different beasts. The latter is all the more weird coming from a guy, who is a modder himself. Petty bickering and feuding like that will certainly help no modding community.
     
  15. Continuum

    Continuum Vault Fossil

    Nov 8, 2006
    After looking at others comments, I think, you just scored the most annoying personality of 2010 prize, Lizard :salute:

    Judge: Lizard
    Verdict: guilty of faggotness and conspiracy with Haris. Sentenced for 10 years of slavery in BGE.

    Without Lizard this forum would be such boring place. We love you, Lizzie (no sarcasm here).


    I'm trying to keep my mouth shut, and not comment someone else work, but since people commenting my why I shouldn't comment others. So... Can someone show where do you see sadism and evil on these "expressions" of Mr. Metzger? Because I can't. That superior product is lacking everything what TH should have. From decent modeling, through lighting, texturing, animations, and ending on rendering - some re-paint + copy & paste - awesome work, indeed.

    So the statement that fallout fans are the most difficult to please is false - people will accept everything, no matter how shitty it is. Trust me, I do know what I'm talking about.

    *waiting for Lizard* :dance:
     
  16. Eiminkääntekijä

    Eiminkääntekijä First time out of the vault

    Sep 25, 2004
    Let's see if you can do it better. From scratch, IN A DAY!

    And you are not going to see this particular expression in the actual TH in the game.

    :evil:
     
  17. Chris Parks

    Chris Parks Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 10, 2006
    Nah, that's nonsense.

    if I made a talking head that looked like this...



    I'm pretty sure the fallout community will not be happy at all. :D
     
  18. fortyseven

    fortyseven First time out of the vault

    Nov 19, 2008
    Oops didn't read that comment. Totally agree that's way out of line!
     
  19. Continuum

    Continuum Vault Fossil

    Nov 8, 2006
    Because it's lulzy, here's something more serious:



    Or this:




    See how good at copy & paste I'm?
     
  20. Chris Parks

    Chris Parks Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 10, 2006
    Call me insane or whatever - but I like it. :oops: