Talking Heads

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by Continuum, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. Continuum

    Continuum Vault Fossil

    Nov 8, 2006
    It's not about having mad skillz, or being better, or worse artist. I'm far away from saying such type of things, I never said that, and I'll never say. It's about things done right, nothing more. As I said 2d animations simply sucks. Even on small-ish critters you can see side effects of re-paintings (of course, I know it's not possible to make perfect looking animations by this "technique"). Keep in mind that TH is much more larger than them, which mean even more ugly stuff on the screen.

    Conclusion: 3d > 2d :aiee:
     
  2. Mr.Wolna

    Mr.Wolna Vault Senior Citizen

    Nov 15, 2007
    yes, but my 2d skills are much better then the 3d. That why i was making a protrait pack not a full animated th ;)
     
  3. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder

    Sep 14, 2009
    Just a reminder of the style of the heads of Fallout 1 and 2.




    To Mr.Wolna, I love your enthusiasm, never give up, never….no matter what Conti says, but he does have a point.
     
  4. Mr.Wolna

    Mr.Wolna Vault Senior Citizen

    Nov 15, 2007
    hey, i see not a problem. i ma not a 3d artist i have other modding qualities. ;)

    btw: Some one know witch Software was used for the THS? Lightwave?
     
  5. Lexx

    Lexx Background Radiant
    Moderator

    Apr 24, 2005
    First a clay model was made, then scanned into the computer, then slightly more edited, animated and rendered. Most probably with Lightwave, because all other models have been made with it too. See here.
     
  6. Mr.Wolna

    Mr.Wolna Vault Senior Citizen

    Nov 15, 2007
    eh, i am so forgetful. I think some one told me this times ago^^

    anyway thank you, lexx.
     
  7. Continuum

    Continuum Vault Fossil

    Nov 8, 2006
    Past-gen techniques: traditional clay --> digital 3d model
    Next-gen techniques: digital clay --> 3d print

    :ugly:

    Yep, Lightwave is an old school software.

    Anyway, Mr. Whip is going to be really ugly motherfucker :lol:

     
  8. Amgot2

    Amgot2 First time out of the vault

    Feb 12, 2008
    Looking good
     
  9. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder

    Sep 14, 2009
    Can’t wait…are the wrinkles going to be bump mapping, or will build wrinkles in the model itself. By the way who the fuck is Mr. Whip? Where will we meet him.
     
  10. Continuum

    Continuum Vault Fossil

    Nov 8, 2006
    Through bump mapping. The mesh itself is little a bit deformed in those areas, but overall effect in generated via bump map. I'll make the wrinkles more intense, since final size will be smaller + destructive 228 colors. Also, I'm thinking about another scar with leftovers after the stitches at the left side of his face (where that exaggerated bone is - don't know what the English name of this shit is), or maybe this would be too much? Everything is still under construction anyway.

    Mr. Whip is a codename of this head :lol: I still don't know what version should be used for Metzger - this, or Wolna's one.

    -------------------------------EDIT

    Lexx and Dude101 like my version better, and since they're known here as long-time-modders, I count their vote twice ;) 4:2 so far, not sure what Mr. Wolna thinks.
     
  11. Demonslayer

    Demonslayer Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Aug 8, 2005
    Reminds me of:






    Not in this particular pose but i find some resemblances.
     
  12. Chris Parks

    Chris Parks Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 10, 2006
    I prefer your's tooo contie.
     
  13. Glovz

    Glovz Vault Dweller
    Modder

    Sep 16, 2005
    I prefer Continuum's version as well.

    Any thought as to a branding?
     
  14. Lexx

    Lexx Background Radiant
    Moderator

    Apr 24, 2005
    I wonder why it has to be something like a eye or so. There are many ways how someone could mark a slaver.

    http://magazine.web.de/images/876/8471876,pd=3,w=300,mxw=600,mxh=400,h=400.jpg
    http://static.rp-online.de/layout/showbilder/24788-2nd-floor02_ap.jpg
    http://blogs.dmax.de/.a/6a011278d6743a28a40120a7cce9ec970b-800wi

    Just a few examples that I could find via ninja-google search now.

    Also out of The Vault:
     
  15. Continuum

    Continuum Vault Fossil

    Nov 8, 2006
    Who to hell is that fetish looking guy?

    You could tell the same about most angry like looking faces.

    6:2

    8:2

    since Glovz did modding too ;)

    Anyway, tattoo isn't a problem, I can also "burn" something, you know, when you mark cattle's ass:



    Of course, it's just to show what I mean. Such thing would need more work. All I need is a b&w image. Although I'd like to avoid covering most of the face :ugly: Also, I'm not sure about placing it centrally...

    So discuss this matter, if you have time/ideas/whatever.
     
  16. Mr.Wolna

    Mr.Wolna Vault Senior Citizen

    Nov 15, 2007
    looks good the old bastard.

    just my opinion:

    he needs one more scare i think, like my shitty metzger on the head, HERE: :wink:



    I think this would be looks very nice on your version.

    I know in my version they are blue, but i think your green eyes are not evil enough. Personally i would prefer darker eyes, like brown.

    He's brand mark, looks to big and more like a stamp to me.^^

    Also do not like the eye style. i Wold say it should looks like this.

    http://images.clipartof.com/small/4...3d-Render-Of-A-Zombie-Head-With-Evil-Eyes.jpg

    Last but not least. He definitive needs more characteristic, and harder face. with some folds or a broken nose (He should looks really terrible and bad, this old bastard, like in the description says). The wasteland isn't easy, you know ;) and he is also not the youngest anymore. For now he has scares and one eye, but his face looks still smooth like a baby ass. :D


    Please anybody, do not think that i do not like it. I love this metzger. All the critic is because i love the character metzger really much (on if my favorite, if even not the favorite) and i will that this f***ing head looks really good..and BAD. xD. So i hope you take my critic serious. ;)
     
  17. ~;...} Radscorpion

    ~;...} Radscorpion First time out of the vault

    Oct 6, 2007
    :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

    Your Metzger is using lipstick, Wolna?
     
  18. Continuum

    Continuum Vault Fossil

    Nov 8, 2006
    :shock:

    @ Mr. Wolna

    I'm reading all suggestions/ideas/whatever and taking them into consideration.

    As for that image with funny looking elf like thingy: not sure what do you mean by showing me that image. Broken eye is very similar to what Metzger has now.

    As for the green eye: it's going to be changed. I took the eye from other character I'm working on. As I said earlier - everything is under construction.
     
  19. Mr.Wolna

    Mr.Wolna Vault Senior Citizen

    Nov 15, 2007
    @Continuum i mean th scare, i marked red.
    again, i am really expectant too see the final rendering.

    @scorpion.

    Yo know what? you can kiss my ass!

    I do not have problem with critique on my work or when someone don't like it. But turn hard work into ridiculous makes me really angry. So you better should think before you post something like this.
     
  20. Chris Parks

    Chris Parks Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 10, 2006
    I am sure no offense was meant. It's only a joke.