The death penalty

Death penalty?

  • For it

    Votes: 53 100.0%

  • Against it

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Only in the most extreme circumstances

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    53
Kharn said:
Ugly John said:
Thing is he was caught red-handed, the father just got to him before the police.
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Same rule still applies.

Allowing parents to castrate the bastard, that touched their child, after a fair trial = good

Allowing parents to just castrate people outright = bad
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Damnit... No wonder that guy looked mad.... :crazy:
 
Yes because they can certanly judge propperly and objectivly, without thought of vengeance.
 
So for you out there who said you were against it, would you still be against it if someone murdered your family member/s or loved ones?
 
Death penalty doesn't work plain and simple. It's not an deterrent for violent crime, it kills innocent people and is even more expensive than life in prison due to extensive appeals process which is needed. Unless you want to do like China, and execute them hours after the "trial". Death penalty is not about justice, it's about revenge, and I don't want a legal system based on the idea on revenge.

Even so, death penalty is one of the most cruel form of murder known to mankind. To find an equivalent when it comes to "civilian" murderers, you'd have to find someone who tells his victim that he's going to kill her and when he's going to do it and then keeps her confined until that day, at times giving them slim hopes of escaping death and/or postponing the date of execution. Frankly, such monsters are rare in society, but for some reason it is accepted that the state can act in such a manner.
 
So for you out there who said you were against it, would you still be against it if someone murdered your family member/s or loved ones?
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I certainly hope so, and if I'm not then, then that shows that objectivity is not present in family members of victims.

Also, one thing which is interesting, is that Dostoewky thought that the worst fate a man could suffer, would be to know for certain that they were going to die in a matter of seconds. He could know, because it happened to him. Lucky bastard got clemency in the last minute, though.
 
I think the poll is kind of interesting-
7 are for it.
8 only in certain circumstances

This means that a majority of posters think the death penalty is a valid punishment.

Only 12, a minority think it should be done away with.
 
Dostoyevsky I belive it is in English. I think I would know, I read Karamozov when I was 12 and Crime and Punishment when I was 13.

Yeah, that incedent is when he got religion I belive. Fairly interesting.
 
welsh said:
I think the poll is kind of interesting-
7 are for it.
8 only in certain circumstances

This means that a majority of posters think the death penalty is a valid punishment.

Only 12, a minority think it should be done away with.
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I think this shows how blunt a tool polls is, rather than a clear majority for or against the death penalty.
 
Dostoyevsky I belive it is in English
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Actually, I've already encountered about 12 different ways of writing his name. I couldn't even find his name in the local library computer, until I checked for the title, and I immediately saw that they used three different versions. Ehe

And, welsh, please try not to trust in polls. I've yet to see a truly correct internet poll. I dare bet that a lot of people didn't vote on it(I hadn't, until you just mentioned it, for instance), and they tend to give a distorted view.
 
I'm for it, some people deserve to die. It's not exactly like they'll be missed and they have no value to society, so why not? If someone murdered anybody I liked I'd want them to die, not have it easy in some prison while I pay for his survival. Besides, we kill people in other countrys that are just being patriotic, so why not kill some hillbilly who raped a little girl or two.
 
ConstinpatedCraprunner said:
I think I would know, I read Karamozov when I was 12 and Crime and Punishment when I was 13.
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PS: the most common English way of spelling it is "Dostouvsky"
 
I am for it. Why? Because I haven't been in a situation where I have lost a loved one, family, or friend yet. To murder that is. And I know that if I did, I would want that person to pay the penalty. But why would a no death penalty prevent crime? If someone was strongly determined to do it, he/she would regardless. I think that in a society, both civilized and non, we need punishments for crimes. And the death penalty is one of those that we need. The only problem I see with this is wrongly accused people every once in a while get this punishment.
 
Kharn said:
ConstinpatedCraprunner said:
I think I would know, I read Karamozov when I was 12 and Crime and Punishment when I was 13.
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PS: the most common English way of spelling it is "Dostouvsky"
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My dad bet me a computer for Karamozov, and by the time I reached Crime and Punishment I had an obsession with Russian literature.
 
Well, I hope you at least didn't fully grasp the book at that age, because if you did, you're prolly Many-As-One in disguise.
 
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