The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remake/Remaster.

[Norzan]

but at least its level scaling doesnt break the game in half

The remaster didn't even attempted to fix it. Still gonna run into massive damage sponges not even halfway through the game.

 

[Dr. Sep]

Currently sitting at 82% positive reviews out of 13k. Wtf?

Seriously, just... why? It's a 60$ graphical mod pack for a game from almost 20 years ago. Instead of buying it, you could just use oblivion + wabbajack and get similar experience.

For fucks sake, Skyoblivion is coming out and will probably be free! Why would you pay real life money for an outdated, poorly written mess which is also woke now (genders removed and replaced with bodytypes)?

Either nostalgia goggles are real or people are that stupid. My guess it's a bit of both. You could get Baldur's Gate 3 instead or Solasta or Persona 5 Royal instead of it. Fucking hell...

Using mods wouldn't be 125gb as well.

 

[Risewild]

No new content or anything. very few if any substantial quality of life improvements. no story additions. this isnt a full on remake. this is a fucking MACROtransaction for a 20 year old game and people are eating it up. that's where we're at now. They finally got gamers to accept a paid mod with a smile on their face. FOR FIFTY DOLLARS! i am convinced that gamers will accept anything at this point.

It's even worse than a paid mod.
If it was a paid mod, you could still easily mod the game, but this version is much harder to make and install mods for.

 

[Resardiv]

It's even worse than a paid mod.
If it was a paid mod, you could still easily mod the game, but this version is much harder to make and install mods for.

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it’s gonna be a mess when the hype dies down and the Bethesda-drones wake up from their Todd-slop slumber.

 

[Mr Fish]

I like og Oblivion fine. I don't like it as much as Morrowind, but I also don't mind the streamlining too much. I love Morrowind, but I don't really want to play another game like it.
Oblivion is still a lot better than Skyrim.

Yeah it's got tonnes of issues, but honestly, it's not a bad game.

ye it is, wrongo mongo

 

[Mr Fish]

The remaster didn't even attempted to fix it. Still gonna run into massive damage sponges not even halfway through the game.

Yknow what the argument is on the Steam forums whenever someone mentions anything like this? "It's a 20 year old game, duh" or "it's a remaster, what YOU'RE asking for is a REMAKE!!1!!"

Like... It's an opportunity for them to course correct bad design decisions people have had issues with for 2 fucking decades. They squandered it and you're being apologists for it.

As I said in my rant. Fucking cultists, the lot of them. Unhinged lunatics.
This shit would not fly for any other game that got remade.
...
Maaaaaaybe a Nintendo game cause they are unhinged cultic lunatics too.

Using mods wouldn't be 125gb as well.

I'm surprised people have been bitching left and right about other games being bloatware but there is a complete silence when it comes to Bethesda doing the same thing.
Big thunk.

it’s gonna be a mess when the hype dies down and the Bethesda-drones wake up from their Todd-slop slumber.

I mean, that's what I thought about Skyrim too and look at how long they gargled Todd's nuts for that one.

 

[TheGM]

it’s gonna be a mess when the hype dies down and the Bethesda-drones wake up from their Todd-slop slumber.

People have been saying that for a thousand years and it still hasn't happened.

 

[Norzan]

Yknow what the argument is on the Steam forums whenever someone mentions anything like this? "It's a 20 year old game, duh" or "it's a remaster, what YOU'RE asking for is a REMAKE!!1!!"

The funny thing is that if they did changed it but it was somehow worse and we criticized the worse change, they would say people just want the old game again.

Basically all Bethesda fans do is move the goalpost.

 

[R.Graves]

"it's a remaster, what YOU'RE asking for is a REMAKE!!1!!"

the distinction between the two is a thin grey line at this point alls im saying is a simple remaster shouldn't been 10 dollars short of a full price game. as for things oblivion need fixed the seperate cell cities immediately jumps to mind. in the year of our lord 2025 having to go through a whole loading screen to enter a "city" with two streets and 20 NPCs is fucking crazy

 

[Silica Pathways]

Don’t ever disrespect Daggerfall like that.

Pardon my ignorance.

I've actually not played any tES games previous to Morrowind. I did read about them and considered playing them, graphics looked sufficient, but, if I remember correctly, I didn't like enemy spawning mechanics. Not sure if tES games before Morrowind where much moddable either.

 

[Resardiv]

People have been saying that for a thousand years and it still hasn't happened.

I am once again too optimistic

Pardon my ignorance.

I've actually not played any tES games previous to Morrowind. I did read about them and considered playing them, graphics looked sufficient, but, if I remember correctly, I didn't like enemy spawning mechanics. Not sure if tES games before Morrowind where much moddable either.

Arena and Daggerfall, no. But since the release of Daggerfall Unity, DF has had a slew of qol and content mods. It’s excellent.

 

[Mr Fish]

the distinction between the two is a thin grey line at this point alls im saying is a simple remaster shouldn't been 10 dollars short of a full price game. as for things oblivion need fixed the seperate cell cities immediately jumps to mind. in the year of our lord 2025 having to go through a whole loading screen to enter a "city" with two streets and 20 NPCs is fucking crazy

Nah, a remaster is when you take something and update it in various ways to improve upon it.
A remake is when you literally throw it all out the window and recreate it from scratch. Sometimes to follow the exact same blueprint and sometimes to just use it as bullet points.
A remix is when you take what already exists and purposefully overhaul large aspects of it to functionally be different.

The distinction is quite clear.

 

[R.Graves]

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I hate gamers so much its unreal

 

[Big No]

He pretty much shitted on the game and his arguments are the ones me and many others have used against Oblivion for many years now.

I recall his video having more 'its flawed but had lots of interesting ideas behind it' vibes to it. Addressing Oblivion's flaws but still offering insight towards what the game offers and what it attempts with thoughtful critique.

When I hear 'shitted on', I think more along the lines of like Creetosis' videos about Fallout 3/4, which is also critique but more in a 'this game is fucked and here's why' sort of way.

 

[Norzan]

I recall his video having more 'its flawed but had lots of interesting ideas behind it' vibes to it. Addressing Oblivion's flaws but still offering insight towards what the game offers and what it attempts with thoughtful critique.

Nah, he pretty much shitted on it except with more words.

 

[Big No]

Nah, he pretty much shitted on it except with more words.

I think the video I might've been thinking about was actually the 6 hour critique from Private Sessions, confused it with PatricianTV's video. PS's was more on the conflicted side, but leaning more positively in that 'flawed but enjoyable way' I mentioned before.

That being said, I did check Patrician's video to be sure and while he did list off Oblivion's myriad of problems, he did say that he couldn't bring himself to hate the game since it did have interesting ideas, just poor execution, which I can get behind.